tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post4097306280743884992..comments2024-01-30T04:57:48.673-05:00Comments on Second Mile Sandusky Scandal: PSU Claim Payment (and other) MalfeasanceBarry Bozemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-25636476376441309722016-05-16T13:55:11.691-04:002016-05-16T13:55:11.691-04:00Tim;
Just noticed this. I came back and took a s...Tim;<br /><br />Just noticed this. I came back and took a second look after PN Charlie Thompson's article on the cost of the claims.<br /><br />As far as board members reimbursement. It has happened in some home owner associations to the tune of hundreds of thousands. Recent major case in Victorville, CA extends boards fiduciary responsibilities. <br /><br />Got to think that if a HOA board member could be found financially responsible, the fiduciary requirements for a board at Penn State and it's $5 BILLION dollar annual budget would have even more due diligence expected and required !!Mike for Justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15094679507374313625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-73573091390272178862016-05-11T23:51:16.936-04:002016-05-11T23:51:16.936-04:00Mike and Tim,
From what I understand, and I haven&...Mike and Tim,<br />From what I understand, and I haven't had time to really delve into this, purposeful failure/acts of bad faith can be prosecuted under the charitable/fiduciary rules.<br /><br />RayRay Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-14572783343778109432016-05-11T23:49:22.508-04:002016-05-11T23:49:22.508-04:00Andrew,
You stated the primary reason why:
Impo...Andrew,<br />You stated the primary reason why: <br /><br />Important donors and/or decision makers were closely aligned with the second mile (were afraid that (let's just say) bad acts would be exposed). <br /><br />Whether those bad acts were profiteering or participating in child prostitution is the million dollar question.<br /><br />Spanier, Paterno, and others were scapegoated to make sure no one shined the light into those dark corners.<br /><br />Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-63924043554739580642016-05-11T23:44:15.358-04:002016-05-11T23:44:15.358-04:00This mess should be investigated by the Congress. ...This mess should be investigated by the Congress. This can't be left in Pennsylvania's hands.<br /><br />RayRay Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-32417333228652307162016-05-11T23:42:40.827-04:002016-05-11T23:42:40.827-04:00Thanks, Carole.
I'm not an attorney, so I am ...Thanks, Carole.<br /><br />I'm not an attorney, so I am not sure if these are crimes or torts, but what happened definitely violated some law or code.<br /><br />RayRay Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-11320489108906505482016-05-11T23:41:00.295-04:002016-05-11T23:41:00.295-04:00Hambone 55 & Truthseeker,
Yes, another underly...Hambone 55 & Truthseeker,<br />Yes, another underlying motivation by Penn State, the PA State Government, and the media was to protect The Second Mile and whatever was going on there. <br /><br />This smells of organized crime running the state of Pennsylvania.<br /><br />Ray<br /><br /><br /><br />Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-31176639601097861842016-05-11T23:38:29.085-04:002016-05-11T23:38:29.085-04:00Tim,
PSU won't sue the phony victim from 1971....Tim,<br />PSU won't sue the phony victim from 1971. That would look bad (LOL).<br /><br />RayRay Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-14193442155119795182016-05-11T12:30:06.613-04:002016-05-11T12:30:06.613-04:00See my two above posts that explain my theory. But...See my two above posts that explain my theory. But Ray would be the one to offer the definitive facts you can put together to form the most likely theory as to "why". Truthseekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06434780738644463324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-15526915240505484602016-05-11T08:52:42.974-04:002016-05-11T08:52:42.974-04:00" orchestrated effort to convict PSU in the c..." orchestrated effort to convict PSU in the court of public opinion."<br /><br />I just don't understand why they would do this. Who were they trying to protect? What's the value of it?<br /><br />Important donors or decision makers who were closely aligned with the second mile?<br /><br />What's your theory?Andrew P. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05367789416430853360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-79233460531738114602016-05-10T23:25:37.137-04:002016-05-10T23:25:37.137-04:00Mike for Justice - I agree that the BoT has a fidu...Mike for Justice - I agree that the BoT has a fiduciary duty and they have badly failed in that duty over and over in their handling of the Sandusky scandal. <br /><br />Giving lavish settlements to unbelievable claims just to head off lawsuits is now backfiring as reports leak out.<br /><br />In many people's minds, Penn State giving a settlement means the claims are true.<br /><br />I doubt there has ever been a case where Board members had to reimburse a university for financial losses the Board was responsible for. No one would serve on a Board if their bad decisions could cost them money.<br /><br />Penn State will pretend that no taxpayer money was used to pay for the Sandusky scandal with bookkeeping tricks. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-38592780043792428032016-05-10T21:23:25.351-04:002016-05-10T21:23:25.351-04:00Tim;
My thoughts were along the lines of the trus...Tim;<br /><br />My thoughts were along the lines of the trustee (BOT) owing a fiduciary responsibility to the principals, (taxpayers and students) to properly oversee the finances entrusted to them. <br /><br />I misspoke in referring it to the AG it would probably be a matter for the Governors Office of Chief Counsel as a civil matter to seek restitution from those on the BOT who negligently and carelessly failed to perform those duties in their incompetent handling of the FREEH report and subsequent approval of claims. Therefore obligating the principals to provide millions of taxpayer money.<br /><br />Problem is too many board positions are beyond the control of the voting alumni.<br />Mike for Justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15094679507374313625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-9935792264325728372016-05-10T19:06:18.569-04:002016-05-10T19:06:18.569-04:00I doubt there is much that can be done from outsid...I doubt there is much that can be done from outside because the Board of Trustees has no one above them. <br /><br />I doubt violation of fiduciary duty would even be a crime unless they were embezzling university money or steering university contracts to themselves or cronies. <br /><br />The best solution is to probably get a majority of honest Board Members and then they can weed out the bad apples and expose the corruption. <br />Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-35836735834650396472016-05-10T11:52:55.442-04:002016-05-10T11:52:55.442-04:00Excellent question! And yes, it's the obvious....Excellent question! And yes, it's the obvious. The answer, I believe, is in the bigger picture. The regulators are being "regulated". I know it's uncomfortable to realize, but something is terribly wrong and upside down right now in our country. Billions, and I mean multi-billions, are being funneled into controlling and suppressing information. Mainly, information that reflects truth in reality. And I say "truth in reality" knowing very well these two words should be synonymous with each other. But what is happening today in our country is the shaping of a revisionist false reality. Quite simply, the false reality is being sloppily created by billion dollar criminals desperately trying to hide their enormous crimes against us, the people. <br /><br />The media persecution of the newly-elected, first ever female Attorney General in PA is an example of this sloppy false reality. There are very big crimes to cover, and Kathleen Kane is a threat to exposing these crimes. It's out-of-control organized crime against the people of this country. The crimes include murder, theft, organized slander and child sex trafficking. And it's been an integral partnership between our own once-trusted government and billion dollar media outlets.<br /><br />Yes, so where are the regulators? They have gone criminal. So now the people have to reform these organizations that we trusted to regulate. Will an honest PA legislator step up and initiate this? Truthseekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06434780738644463324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-14258316791913504132016-05-10T11:04:06.267-04:002016-05-10T11:04:06.267-04:00Ray:
Just a thought for discussion. I assume the ...Ray:<br /><br />Just a thought for discussion. I assume the funds for the claims paid out now and in the Future, which are not covered by insurance, would be funded by taxpayers and student tuition. <br /><br />Do the BOT members (past and current) have a fiduciary responsibility to the taxpayers and students who are burdened with funding those claims. Does not the acceptance of the FREEH report without review and the decision to accept claims without review etc violate those fiduciary responsibilities? <br /><br />Would it be a "position question" for the Attorney General, and AG candidates on pursuit of violation of fiduciary responsibility. <br /><br />I have to think that Frazier, Peetz, Erickson, etal would be more concerned about those duties if they were the ones paying out the claims and facing saying good-by to one of their beach houses!<br /><br />Unfortunately I would assume that Corbett, Fina, Noonan and the AG crew would be protected by sovereign immunity.Mike for Justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15094679507374313625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-87094650491549156932016-05-10T10:55:37.168-04:002016-05-10T10:55:37.168-04:00Very well said! You hit the nail on the head with ...Very well said! You hit the nail on the head with "at ALL costs". Billion dollar news outlets that used to be respected are now obviously colluding to publish false news about innocent people to hide something very criminal that they are involved in. This decay of journalistic integrity is historically indicative of desperation.<br /><br />As you said, "one can only surmise". Well anyone that has read my long-winded posts knows that I like to surmise. I tend to look at the bigger picture when I surmise, and I think it would help others that want to restore the Paterno's and PSU's good name to do the same. We say things like, "well it seems irresponsible that Sara Ganim left that out", or "Ganim doesn't seem to understand the meaning of fact checking". Do we really think we can simply just shame people like Sara Ganim and John Micek into actually investigating, and fact checking their stories? These two are not just making innocent mistakes. They have sold-out their morality to billion dollar fake news outlets that are undermining the very fabric of our country. Too much drama, you say? Too unbelievable to be true? Too uncomfortable and frightening to think about? Well, we better think about it and stop believing these "journalists" that have literally sold their souls to the devil will come around. They may be from Pennsylvania and we want to think that they have our best interests at heart. And that optimism or maybe even naivety, shows we still have our humanity. We are not soulless shells that have long ago traded away what makes us human for money and contrived and hollow Pulitzers.<br /><br />Jesus Christ, came to give us what I consider to be one of the most important questions we can answer:<br /><br />Mark 8:36 "For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?"Truthseekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06434780738644463324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-57483318050766764492016-05-10T09:05:34.731-04:002016-05-10T09:05:34.731-04:00One basic and obvious question, where are the stat...One basic and obvious question, where are the state and federal regulators?Concerned Citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02185946356356595396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-48297331501747938882016-05-10T08:27:01.465-04:002016-05-10T08:27:01.465-04:00Thank you Ray for providing a superb time line tha...Thank you Ray for providing a superb time line that clearly shows how the criminal acts of a few have irreparably trashed the reputation of good men and the the public image of a great university. There MUST be consequences.Carole Vailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13413452649107579860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-33253214376794342132016-05-10T07:11:52.958-04:002016-05-10T07:11:52.958-04:00The only thing that seems to be common to any of t...The only thing that seems to be common to any of this is the protection of the Second Mile and the captains of industry that ran PSU at the time ? Their willingness to throw Paterno, Spanier, Schultz and Curley, and in essence PSU, to the wolves is amazing !! One can only surmise what lies behind this need to protect their reputations "at ALL costs" ? Their involvement and association with the "Second Mile" could be "what they know" and need to protect so vehemently !!!<br />Hambone 55https://www.blogger.com/profile/06812150795921876226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-41803600063400294932016-05-10T05:51:21.606-04:002016-05-10T05:51:21.606-04:00Thanks for putting these events together in a time...Thanks for putting these events together in a timeline.<br /><br />What was the motive for this cabal of trustees to commit malfeasance that was so harmful to Penn State's reputation and finances? <br /><br />Will Penn State sue the alleged 1971 victim for return of the settlement money now that he violated the confidentiality agreement by giving his story to CNN? Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.com