tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post4658673296443383772..comments2024-01-30T04:57:48.673-05:00Comments on Second Mile Sandusky Scandal: Out of Our Minds- Part 1: Psychological obstacles to changing the narrative in the Sandusky scandalBarry Bozemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-81300616056416514702013-03-13T02:27:56.655-04:002013-03-13T02:27:56.655-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459439543708406662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-23496059208731932862013-03-10T19:10:45.740-04:002013-03-10T19:10:45.740-04:00Agreed, could not have said it betterAgreed, could not have said it betterBSymth409https://www.blogger.com/profile/06752488429258658470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-11054526245596549752013-03-10T14:45:29.789-04:002013-03-10T14:45:29.789-04:00now that "sexual nature" pops out to eve...now that "sexual nature" pops out to everyone and is consistently cited out of context. In the interview with the investigators just a few hours prior to the GJ testimony, Paterno did not use the words "sexual nature". Since this is a transcript and not a recording or video, we also have no idea of any inflection in his voice. <br /><br />Was it a statement of certainty? Was it a question? Why does he bookend those 2 words with "I don't know what you would call it" and "I'm not exactly sure what it was"??<br /><br />The anchoring is that the media and the Paterno haters emphasized a false GJ presentment, and 2 words from his testimony, to create the false narrative that Joe knew with certainty it was molestation.Jeffrey W Simonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00177874741526642177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-68669565842798605902013-03-10T14:39:47.855-04:002013-03-10T14:39:47.855-04:00Here is Joe's actual testimony:
Q: Without ge...Here is Joe's actual testimony:<br /><br />Q: Without getting into any graphic detail, what did Mr. McQueary tell you he had seen and where?<br /> <br />Mr. Paterno: Well, he had seen a person, an older — not an older, but a mature person who was fondling, whatever you might call it — I’m not sure what the term would be — a young boy.<br /> <br />Q: Did he identify who that older person was?<br /> <br />Mr. Paterno: Yes, a man by the name of Jerry Sandusky who had been one of our coaches, was not at the time.<br /> <br />Q: You’re saying that at the time this incident was reported to you, Sandusky was no longer a coach?<br /><br />Mr. Paterno: No, he had retired voluntarily. I’m not sure exactly the year, but I think it was either ‘98 or ‘99.<br /> <br />Q: I think you used the term fondling. Is that the term that you used?<br /> <br />Mr. Paterno: Well, I don’t know what you would call it. Obviously, he was doing something with the youngster.<br /> <br />It was a sexual nature. I’m not sure exactly what it was.<br /> <br />I didn’t push Mike to describe exactly what it was because he was very upset. Obviously, I was in a little bit of a dilemma since Mr. Sandusky was not working for me anymore.<br /> <br />So I told — I didn’t go any further than that except I knew Mike was upset and I knew some kind of inappropriate action was being taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster.<br />Jeffrey W Simonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00177874741526642177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-70247334521804602522013-03-10T13:00:34.374-04:002013-03-10T13:00:34.374-04:00Does what does sexual nature mean to you?Does what does sexual nature mean to you?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08313128547272683793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-62598403065568099052013-03-10T12:57:44.303-04:002013-03-10T12:57:44.303-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08313128547272683793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-66102918613276684152013-03-09T14:45:06.578-05:002013-03-09T14:45:06.578-05:00I think the biggest hurdle to overcome is Joe'...I think the biggest hurdle to overcome is Joe's testimony when he said it 'was of a sexual nature'. This is the anchor weighing heaviest. The tide has turned somewhat in the cover up theory but not in what Joe should have done based on his testimony.BSymth409https://www.blogger.com/profile/06752488429258658470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-51101856113196865252013-03-09T13:53:28.909-05:002013-03-09T13:53:28.909-05:00rdk,
everything that is printed on this blog is tw...rdk,<br />everything that is printed on this blog is tweeted to the media. Crickets. Someone on the BWI board sent Christine Brennan my open letter to the media and she sent back a response to them that was... shall we say, evasive. I sent her a respectful email asking for dialogue and am still waiting, all these months later, for a response from her. I have not tried to reach out to PSU journalism professors. Thank you for that suggestion.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01038300827945998559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-75664512731941064072013-03-09T11:41:42.902-05:002013-03-09T11:41:42.902-05:00Jessi, perhaps now would be a time to renew your e...Jessi, perhaps now would be a time to renew your effort to speak directly to the media in general and to the PSU Dept of Journalism in particular. At least some academics in journalism must be dismayed by the absurdities of the handling of the Sandusky scandal. Perhaps some progress toward the truths in all this could occur through a re-release of your open letter to the media (link below) combined with an invitation-they-can't-in-clear-conscience-refuse to PSU Journalism profs and alum (e.g., Mike Signora, Mike Missanelli, Lisa Salters, AND Sara Ganim) for a discussion of what we know to date of the Sandusky case.<br /><br />http://ps4rs.wordpress.com/2012/09/09/letter-to-the-editor-an-open-letter-to-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-811<br /><br />I believe what is unique about this case is you guys...think of the scope of the impact if the Catholic Church had had an enormous academic base determined and capable to investigate and reveal the root causes at work there.rdkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007253694089460950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-57168357533150504152013-03-09T10:25:10.013-05:002013-03-09T10:25:10.013-05:00You are correct in that Jonathan. I think what I ...You are correct in that Jonathan. I think what I was trying to say was the media was perfectly willing to publicize the correct information once it was available in the Duke and Atlanta cases, yet they are not doing so in this one. The Sollers report has been largely ignored or dismissedAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01038300827945998559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-46701573200998735682013-03-09T10:09:34.819-05:002013-03-09T10:09:34.819-05:00Thank you...Thank you...Deb L. Marciano, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18217621370181323934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-77923259864770011462013-03-09T09:26:07.858-05:002013-03-09T09:26:07.858-05:00What's "unique" about this case as o...What's "unique" about this case as opposed to the others is the involvement of a nationally recognized figure (Joe Paterno) who was for years regarded as a "man who did it right," so to speak. I highly doubt many of the Catholic Church abuse cases involved well-known figures. The name "Richard Jewell" was probably not known to many people outside of Atlanta. And since the Duke case involved the lacrosse team, well, lacrosse doesn't have anywhere near the national exposure that football does. But everyone knew the name "Joe Paterno," and the idea that he might have completely gone against the principles he claimed to stand for made for one of the most sensational stories of the decade. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-71570860537766952502013-03-09T08:14:24.106-05:002013-03-09T08:14:24.106-05:00Yes, it was absolutely ridiculous. The media usin...Yes, it was absolutely ridiculous. The media using Joe's picture so often in that first week, and ever since really, has driven this entire narrative. It's going to be a tremendous task to change most people's minds, and there are some we will probably never reach. What's so unusual and frustrating about this case is that it seems somewhat unique. The catholic church has not suffered the same loss in status, and those abuses were over a long period and were proven to have been covered up. The Duke case is a distant memory, nobody thinks Richard Jewell planted that bomb... And those cases didn't have anywhere near the amount of exculpatory information as this one.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01038300827945998559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-8723277221965118682013-03-09T08:08:25.339-05:002013-03-09T08:08:25.339-05:00At this time we have plans for attribution error, ...At this time we have plans for attribution error, hindsight bias, confirmation bias, and framing for sure, but we wanted to leave the series open so that readers could suggest other topics. feel free to make any such suggestionsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01038300827945998559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-908346541941540402013-03-08T21:38:15.489-05:002013-03-08T21:38:15.489-05:00In that first week, it was all "Child Sexual ...In that first week, it was all "Child Sexual Abuse Scandal" headlines coupled with Joe Paterno's photo. Talk about anchoring...Carolyn Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03618998313704070525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-87902683797238142272013-03-08T20:46:40.823-05:002013-03-08T20:46:40.823-05:00Nothing like an academic approach, right? I mean,...Nothing like an academic approach, right? I mean, WE ARE a university after all! Kudos to all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08500704355771060592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-73690555915442575842013-03-08T19:51:43.643-05:002013-03-08T19:51:43.643-05:00This is brilliant - a great idea!
Hope you cover ...This is brilliant - a great idea!<br /><br />Hope you cover Hindsight/Outcome Bias and Confirmation Bias/Semmelweis Reflex too!<br /><br />And you could write a textbook on how badly our memories serve us...especially a decade or so later.Jeff Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745348951119063296noreply@blogger.com