tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post841706102844330051..comments2024-01-30T04:57:48.673-05:00Comments on Second Mile Sandusky Scandal: BOMBSHELL: Exculpatory Evidence Removed From Schultz FileBarry Bozemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-2961696880311787782020-01-27T20:30:22.433-05:002020-01-27T20:30:22.433-05:00I read Machiavelli's book "The Prince and...I read Machiavelli's book "The Prince and it was rather tame compared to this scenario> I wonder if the scoundrels who engineered this are still carrying daggers and poison rings?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492455029300807443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-11374279807279886332020-01-24T21:30:52.605-05:002020-01-24T21:30:52.605-05:00I think eventually McQ took advantage of the posit...I think eventually McQ took advantage of the position he was in to give some false testimony that helped his lawsuit, like the hearsay that Paterno told him "Old Main screwed it up ... They're going to try to scapegoat you. Trust your lawyers. Don't trust Cynthia Baldwin. Don't trust Old Main." Paterno was dead by then so there was no one to dispute it.<br /><br />McQ would have known that he could sneak in a few lies without the prosecution being able to do anything about it. If they charged him with perjury for one lie, all his testimony would be tainted and Sandusky would have grounds for a new trial.Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-70879171887419073322020-01-22T18:52:06.400-05:002020-01-22T18:52:06.400-05:00Frank Fina's modus operandi was to turn uncoop...Frank Fina's modus operandi was to turn uncooperative witnesses into criminal defendants. As Tim noted, had McQ not cooperated, Fina would have charged he and his father (and probably Dranov) with Failure to Report.<br /><br />And Tim is right about Fina holding perjury or lying to the police over McQ's head if he made a public statement to correct the record. McQ's handwritten statement said he saw Jerry "sodomizing" the victim. Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-12560705680184023532020-01-22T18:48:01.648-05:002020-01-22T18:48:01.648-05:00Tim,
Excellent points. I agree wholeheartedly.Tim,<br />Excellent points. I agree wholeheartedly.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-39855662615760269082020-01-22T18:47:17.919-05:002020-01-22T18:47:17.919-05:00Shari,
Courtney told the Freeh Group that he remem...Shari,<br />Courtney told the Freeh Group that he remembered someone reporting the 2001 incident, but it wasn't him because he would have kept a record of the report.<br /><br />See page 84 of the Freeh Report. Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-75412460418399859662020-01-21T10:22:45.731-05:002020-01-21T10:22:45.731-05:00The Attorney General's office had a lot to gai...The Attorney General's office had a lot to gain by railroading the Penn State officials. Charging Curley and Schultz removed them as key defense witnesses for Sandusky who would have contradicted McQueary, the prosecution's star witness.<br /><br />Railroading Penn State also protected guiltier parties, especially the government child protection agencies (CYS, DPW) who failed to protect children from Sandusky even after learning in 1998 that Sandusky bear hugged boys in the shower. Second Mile and its many big name supporters was also protected. <br />Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-12051756421156518892020-01-21T02:23:12.862-05:002020-01-21T02:23:12.862-05:00A pathological liar writing a memoir celebrating h...A pathological liar writing a memoir celebrating his deception?? Maybe he and Frank (the rat) Fina will burn in hell, but I think it is our job to produce hell on earth for these miscreants.Greg Vernonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10566899608592908874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-3819347502003549652020-01-21T01:15:48.044-05:002020-01-21T01:15:48.044-05:00That police chief Harmon may have contacted CYS in...That police chief Harmon may have contacted CYS in 2001 does seem quite plausible. I always thought it very odd that Schultz wouldn't have told police chief Harmon about the 2001 Sandusky shower incident given that Harmon had investigated the 1998 Sandusky shower incident. <br /><br />Harmon's testimony never rang true when he said Schultz asked him if the 1998 Sandusky investigation was still on file. The natural response would have been for Harmon to say to Schultz "Why do you ask?" and then Schultz tell him about the 2001 incident.Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-65368213034245161512020-01-20T21:54:47.934-05:002020-01-20T21:54:47.934-05:00I believe McQueary was blindsided by the presentme...I believe McQueary was blindsided by the presentment as indicated by his email exchanges with prosecutor Eshbach where he complained that presentment "tisted" his testimony. Eshbach told him not to say anything publicly. <br /><br />McQueary might have gone to reporters immediately after the presentment was leaked but the prosecutors had leverage over him so he would have done that at his peril. Prosecutors could have easily charged Dranov and McQueary's father with failure to report and child endangerment the way they did Curley and Schultz. I think it's obvious that McQueary's cooperation with prosecutors was a major reason those two weren't charged. <br /><br />It quickly got to the point that McQueary was in so deep he couldn't recant or he would have been charged with perjury. I think it was more that a naive McQueary was manipulated by dishonest police and prosecutors. Maybe McQueary will write his tell all book some day and explain it more.Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-68663529047047553042020-01-20T21:46:23.408-05:002020-01-20T21:46:23.408-05:00Becky,
Thanks for your comments.
I think you'...Becky,<br />Thanks for your comments.<br /><br />I think you're right in part that if Mike had corrected the record, as Eshbach told him he could do, that the damage would have been less, especially to Joe Paterno.<br /><br />However, former Gov Tom Corbett was using that incident to take down Spanier and that part would have continued with Spanier being the key scapegoat.<br /><br />Corbett would have been completely fine with that, but John Surma probably would have been very disappointed.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-87177437339144095932020-01-20T20:47:51.046-05:002020-01-20T20:47:51.046-05:00I'm still stumped by Mike McQueary's role ...I'm still stumped by Mike McQueary's role in allowing his words to be misquoted in the presentment. If he had insisted on correcting the record AND his father and Dranov had been steadfast and honest and clear about what Mike conveyed the very NIGHT of the shower event, none of the damage would have been done. I still hold the McQuearys primarily responsible for it all. So was it weak character on their part that allowed it all to crash down?? rdkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007253694089460950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-9163692815999591422020-01-20T20:26:21.038-05:002020-01-20T20:26:21.038-05:00Tim,
They would have met with McQ on 2/17 or 2/18....Tim,<br />They would have met with McQ on 2/17 or 2/18. <br /><br />The exculpatory email could have been one from Harmon to Schultz stating that CYS was contacted and that they weren't going to investigate. <br />Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-11221390184540310662020-01-20T20:24:01.437-05:002020-01-20T20:24:01.437-05:00There are several reasons why this went down...you...There are several reasons why this went down...you could call it a perfect storm.<br /><br />1. The Old Guard trustees wanted to take power away from Spanier and Paterno, so the Sandusky mess was used to get rid of them. Freeh was hired to justify the firings.<br /><br />2. Surma wanted Paterno gone due to a family disagreement/vendetta. See sidebar > THE SURMA VENDETTA<br /><br />3. Corbett had a vendetta against Spanier and wanted him gone.<br /><br />4. No idea on TSM's servers and computers. Its financial paper trail in incriminating enough. Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-19282234373025022822020-01-20T17:59:56.288-05:002020-01-20T17:59:56.288-05:00The prosecution alleged the date of the McQueary w...The prosecution alleged the date of the McQueary witnessed shower incident was February 9, 2001, although that has been disputed. <br /><br />The diary refers to a 2-26 exculpatory email so wouldn't that have been about the time McQueary had the meeting with Curley and Schultz? It would make sense that Curley and Schultz would want to talk to McQueary before reporting Sandusky to cps.Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-71175894690618395812020-01-20T10:08:04.510-05:002020-01-20T10:08:04.510-05:00What did anyone have to gain by railroading Shult...What did anyone have to gain by railroading Shultz, Curley, Spanier, and Paterno?<br /><br />Also, whatever happened to The Second Mile's computers and servers?<br /><br />Who on the BOT gained from covering this up?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10488222517619068958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-72321885455212356772020-01-20T00:43:12.925-05:002020-01-20T00:43:12.925-05:00If I remember correctly, Wendell Courtney also tes...If I remember correctly, Wendell Courtney also testified that he was pretty sure it had been reported to child protective services. I can't remember the exact words, and I could be wrong because we were reviewing a lot of transcripts back then.Sharihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04158807350527920092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-6349371202048086662020-01-19T11:24:00.193-05:002020-01-19T11:24:00.193-05:00Tim,
Correct. The exculpatory email was removed f...Tim,<br />Correct. The exculpatory email was removed from the Source Material. Had it been in there, I'm sure the A9 could have gotten an order from the judge to disclose it, use it to file a civil lawsuit, or provide it to law enforcement as evidence of obstruction of justice/malicious prosecution.<br /><br />A lot of "stuff" is going to hit the fan if/when that email surfaces.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-81668827882804289592020-01-19T08:53:03.651-05:002020-01-19T08:53:03.651-05:00See the "Required Reading" area at the t...See the "Required Reading" area at the top of the blog.<br /><br />http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2019/12/no-surprisemisconduct-atop-fbi.htmlRay Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-836942261305060482020-01-19T08:51:52.098-05:002020-01-19T08:51:52.098-05:00Ten years after the fact, Gary's memory of the...Ten years after the fact, Gary's memory of the details was foggy at best. When he testified, he told the court that he believed someone, maybe him, "contacted the local child protection agency."<br /><br />Gary recently told me "I had complete confidence it was reported."Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-63419964396555434342020-01-19T05:49:59.846-05:002020-01-19T05:49:59.846-05:00No wonder Freeh and Penn State were so determined ...No wonder Freeh and Penn State were so determined to keep all Freeh's source materials confidential. I suspect the exculpatory email will not be found among Freeh's source materials anymore.<br /><br />It's stunning that so many people apparently knew of the exculpatory email but kept it secret and let innocent men be convicted and have their reputations ruined. <br /><br />If the exculpatory email can be found, Spanier should get tens of millions from Penn State when he restarts his lawsuit against Freeh. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-84126871913623131802020-01-18T21:52:26.814-05:002020-01-18T21:52:26.814-05:00So if a letter was sent to CYS and TSM, did Schult...So if a letter was sent to CYS and TSM, did Schultz ever claim that he send the letter in his defense?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13847722516775778562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-50536865299496742082020-01-18T20:02:01.581-05:002020-01-18T20:02:01.581-05:00Louis Freeh and James Comey were contemporaries. T...Louis Freeh and James Comey were contemporaries. That's enough for me. ANTI-FREEPERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13584885047755399562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-38921659985846406042020-01-18T19:33:16.763-05:002020-01-18T19:33:16.763-05:00Ray,
Thank you again.
- DavidRay,<br />Thank you again. <br />- DavidAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00650000331458767551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-78697400478504250302020-01-18T18:04:50.413-05:002020-01-18T18:04:50.413-05:00Mark,
More to the point...Gary Schultz received th...Mark,<br />More to the point...Gary Schultz received the "planted" copy of his file in November 2011. So, no, the good guys don't have an unadulterated copy.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-10853707944381547912020-01-18T18:03:02.249-05:002020-01-18T18:03:02.249-05:00Mark,
If it is an exculpatory email (as noted) the...Mark,<br />If it is an exculpatory email (as noted) then it can be recovered. Several copies of the 1998 and 2001 emails were put on USB drives and a copy of the exculpatory email should still be on the server (unless Corro was forced to delete it). But if you were Corro, wouldn't you have made a copy of it in case something like this ever happened?<br /><br />For the most part, Cynthia Baldwin collected all the information and gave it to the OAG (Fina). I'm sure he deep sixed anything exculpatory that was in his possession.<br />Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.com