tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post1333467395780105597..comments2024-01-30T04:57:48.673-05:00Comments on Second Mile Sandusky Scandal: McQueary's Friday Night Doesn't Add Up & MoreBarry Bozemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-39286123322584369742017-11-19T08:06:07.242-05:002017-11-19T08:06:07.242-05:00I am still wondering why, if Randy Feathers was on...I am still wondering why, if Randy Feathers was on the phone with Dr. Dranov in January, 2011 - and Feathers is thusly able to determine the "shower incident" date because Dranov had a medical conference syllabus from that time, why did Tony "Circle Search" Sassano feel the need to concoct the bullshit "Rudy" story? <br /><br />Don't these guys compare notes? <br /><br />And this still begs the question of why - if the OAG knew the date of Mike's "incident" as that weekend in February, and then had the PSU admins emails later on in July confirming that at least, the Admins reacted from then on to whatever story flowed from Mike - did Freeh go to the theatrics that he did about his team finding the "most critical" evidence. <br /><br />Why didn't Linda Kelly just wave these emails around at a press conference and condemn the Admins? <br /><br />Rhetorical question - I know. Freeh simply did the OAG's dirty work, because who would question a former FBI director? <br /><br />And I still can't help but wonder if Mike perhaps heard Joe complain some time back about Jerry bringing kids to campus & how that was a liability and Mike filed that away. Did Mike think that witnessing Jerry and a kid (and we still aren't positive it was actually that Friday evening) - and then scamper to Joe with that observation - ingratiate him to Joe for the Kenny Jackson opening? <br /><br />Of all the oxygen over the years given to Mike's ever evolving stories - it's never completely made sense - and the AG never really needed Mike to properly prosecute the case, assuming that's what they wanted to do in the first place.<br /><br />Which they didn't. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05586018551111572685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-68498673354542522252017-10-25T22:46:37.487-04:002017-10-25T22:46:37.487-04:00TREMy take on it is the McQueary never saw a boy I...TREMy take on it is the McQueary never saw a boy INSIDE the shower area with Jerry. What Mike actually saw was just the head of a boy sticking out from around the corner of a wall.<br /><br />Had A.M. said that he looked around a wall when he heard a noise, that would be confirming evidence he was there that night. Unfortunately, A.M. has never provided any details that put him there. In fact, the opposite is true. When pressed for details, A.M. took himself out of the running for Victim 2.<br /><br />He did not remotely close to sketching the layout of the locker room in question. To make an anaology, this would be akin to someone coming forward to claim a "lost" Rolex wristwatch, then not being able to describe.<br /><br />Had the PSU BOT actually had a vetting process for settlements, they too would have decided that A.M. was not Victim 2.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-73879783901139842462017-10-23T08:59:06.087-04:002017-10-23T08:59:06.087-04:00I think if a boy claimed fondling in 2001 and his ...I think if a boy claimed fondling in 2001 and his story had any possibility of being true the OAG would have jumped on it. Since McQueary had multiple versions of what he saw, any story would have contradicted him. But because V5 testified to heroically escaping Sandusky's assault attempt and McQueary stated he did see any distress on the boy, McQueary may have stopped trying to "help out" the OAG if they had tried to push that narrative.<br /><br />The only thing that does make sense is that the OAG knows damn well Allan Myers was the boy McQueary saw in the shower and the OAG also knows damn well Myers was never molested. The Russian Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05773007757804864157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-77967287817305574932017-10-20T18:01:08.191-04:002017-10-20T18:01:08.191-04:00McQueary's mother, 2001 girlfriend and other r...McQueary's mother, 2001 girlfriend and other relatives may have been questioned by investigators but we wouldn't know about that because the prosecution and defense decided not to call them to testify in open court. Some may have even testified at the grand jury.<br /><br />Maybe Mike's book on the case will reveal more details. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-65470726665700195352017-10-20T15:35:00.674-04:002017-10-20T15:35:00.674-04:00It has always been a mystery why the boys from the...It has always been a mystery why the boys from the 2000 and 2001 shower incidents never came forward. They both stood to get a minimum of $3 million, and could have gotten more if they played a little hardball. <br /><br />If it wasn't Myers in 2001, another possibility is V5, who testified at the Spanier trial. V5 originally claimed he was abused in 1998 but then settled on 2001, seemingly because it meant a bigger settlement. <br /><br />Clearly, the prosecutors wouldn't have wanted V5 to be the boy in the 2001 shower incident because all he claimed was fondling. That would have contradicted McQueary. It would have also meant V5 could not have been used as a witness against Spanier, and he was apparently the best crier. <br /><br />Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-83339456804950113352017-10-20T14:56:18.710-04:002017-10-20T14:56:18.710-04:00I doubt FERPA would be an impediment in a criminal...I doubt FERPA would be an impediment in a criminal case. The defense could question McQueary about his courses in Feb. 2001 without a need for the actual transcript. They could ask his permission to see a copy of his transcript. If he refused, they could seek a subpoena. <br /><br />Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-46257496763121665742017-10-20T12:44:12.539-04:002017-10-20T12:44:12.539-04:00FERPA would prevent the release of that class info...FERPA would prevent the release of that class information.Scott Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14038955844293783102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-46225626289879498142017-10-20T11:25:26.811-04:002017-10-20T11:25:26.811-04:00Another witness who should be able to shed light o...Another witness who should be able to shed light on what Mike McQueary's state of mind was at the time of the shower incident is the girl he was dating at the time. Unlike Anne McQueary, she would have no incentive to protect Mike or John so her testimony should be much more reliable. Has she ever been questioned regarding this case?The Russian Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05773007757804864157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-20271582090050931342017-10-20T11:22:14.165-04:002017-10-20T11:22:14.165-04:00I have heard it as well that it was Sandusky who f...I have heard it as well that it was Sandusky who first proposed that the shower incident was really in 2001 rather than 2002. Do you know if there is proof documenting this? That is very significant because if Jerry claimed Allan Myers as the boy, but McQueary actually witnessed Sandusky assaulting another boy who by some odd reason has never came forward and who the OAG has not been able to locate in SIX years, he would have been jumping for joy at the revelation that the OAG got the date, month, and year wrong. Instead he corrects the OAG, which only makes sense if Allan Myers really was the boy in the shower and that he was not molested by Jerry Sandusky.The Russian Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05773007757804864157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-90671671708740093542017-10-20T11:16:17.396-04:002017-10-20T11:16:17.396-04:00It wouldn't surprise me if the real reason McQ...It wouldn't surprise me if the real reason McQueary was that after hearing that Kenny Jackson had left, planned to snoop around the coaches offices to see if there were any clues to who they were looking to replace Jackson with.<br /><br />Another, less nefarious, reason for McQueary being there is that he was simply daydreaming about being the new receivers coach and simply wanted to further indulge in his daydream by actually checking out his potential "new digs". The Russian Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05773007757804864157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-45447298820739316152017-10-19T17:11:20.728-04:002017-10-19T17:11:20.728-04:00Sandusky said it was 2001 when the prosecution was...Sandusky said it was 2001 when the prosecution was still claiming 2002. I believe Sandusky remembered it was shortly after he was offered the UVA coaching job in Dec. 2000. I don't believe even Sandusky remembered the exact day.<br /><br />I always thought McQueary's tale of why he was on campus never rang true. If you buy new sneakers, you don't need to make a special trip to put the new sneakers in your locker when you drive there nearly every day anyway.<br /><br />It also didn't ring true that McQueary would immediately assume a man and woman were having sex when he heard 2 or 3 slapping sounds through the door. I always wondered if that locker room was a hookup spot for football groupies but I don't remember McQueary ever being asked about it. <br /><br />It also didn't ring true that McQueary would just barge in thinking a man and woman were having sex. Most people would just come back later. McQueary's prime reason for going to campus was not even the sneakers but to get "football things done." Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-7291277789321371162017-10-19T15:07:05.415-04:002017-10-19T15:07:05.415-04:00Didn't Jerry Sandusky himself confirm the date...Didn't Jerry Sandusky himself confirm the date of the shower incident? As to what McQueary was actually doing in the Lasch building, I would surmise it had nothing to do with football. I'd sooner believe he was out with a woman and possibly both were a little drunk and the two of them ended up there intending to 'shower'. Of course he would be surprised to see Jerry and a kid slapping towels and slip sliding away in there and would need to get out quickly so THEY wouldn't see her. veranda-estatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571588207324827113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-72248158007933964202017-10-19T14:49:52.975-04:002017-10-19T14:49:52.975-04:00The fact that Dranov's testimony seems to line...The fact that Dranov's testimony seems to line up with the testimonies of Curley and Schultz leads me to consider the possibility that McQueary talked with Dranov in order to rehearse what he was going to say at the meeting with Curley and Schultz, not the meeting with Paterno. The Russian Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05773007757804864157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-36889309970217501642017-10-18T07:43:40.821-04:002017-10-18T07:43:40.821-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mike for Justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15094679507374313625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-41612494884028285312017-10-18T07:43:21.929-04:002017-10-18T07:43:21.929-04:00Ray your last paragraph sums up the problem with t...Ray your last paragraph sums up the problem with this case from the beginning. Either three successful responsible adults were so fearful of Penn State power that they let this occur or the situation was never articulated by Mike to the point that the media and the AG wanted it to be. So they manipulated the facts into the version they wanted. That is what we are now dealing with for over five years. Mike for Justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15094679507374313625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-46197347631319522802017-10-18T01:46:08.124-04:002017-10-18T01:46:08.124-04:00Sandusky's lawyer just filed a motion about th...Sandusky's lawyer just filed a motion about the two new McQueary-Eshbach emails. He included the BigTrial article as Exhibit B so an online blog may be having an effect. <br /><br />http://co.centre.pa.us/centreco/media/upload/SANDUSKY%20MOTION%20TO%20REOPEN%20THE%20RECORD.pdf<br /><br /><br />It may be too late for Sandusky's appeal because the judge announced he will release his ruling Wed. the 18th about noon. One online source says the chance of success at this stage of an appeal is about 2% so very long odds, and probably even longer for Sandusky. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-1624249463963889372017-10-17T22:01:22.101-04:002017-10-17T22:01:22.101-04:00This is good work on your part again Ray. But you ...This is good work on your part again Ray. But you know it's pretty sad when an online blogger has to do the proper investigative work for Pennsylvania's corrupt law enforcement, corrupt prosecutors, corrupt judges, and their corrupt agents in the media that pose as journalists. <br /><br />Thank God for people like you that give a damn about the truth and work so hard to bring it into the light. I still just can't believe this is the same America I grew up in.Truthseekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06434780738644463324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-31196632454487494942017-10-17T12:30:21.962-04:002017-10-17T12:30:21.962-04:00I think the "actual insertion" language ...I think the "actual insertion" language came from the police. That just doesn't seem like something a regular citizen would say in a statement. <br /><br />If Mike was smelled of alcohol that would explain why his hysteria did not set off alarms for his father and Dr. Dranov. Another possibility is that Mike acted hysterically before so his father and Dranov were used to it. <br /><br />ESPN reported Mike told his players that he had been a victim of child sexual abuse so maybe that played a role. The shower incident could have triggered a flashback to his own abuse. I don't know why defense lawyers would not have asked him about that unless the judge forbade such questions. It would seem to be material if McQueary was a victim of child sexual abuse as it could indicate bias against child abusers. It could also indicate emotional upset that could have meant he was not an objective witness for his 1 or 2 second glance. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-56777523429325418722017-10-17T08:13:20.067-04:002017-10-17T08:13:20.067-04:00David,
Thanks for your insightful comments.
It is...David,<br />Thanks for your insightful comments.<br /><br />It is indeed interesting that Anne McQueary wasn't questioned by police or used as a corroborating witness at any of the proceedings -- especially Mike's civil proceeding.<br /><br />According to the official story line of Friday night, Mike's mother was not included in the discussion about the incident but she was told about it later.<br /><br />What I find very hard to believe is that John Sr. and Mike apparently believed that a child was being sodomized by Sandusky, knew that Sandusky had unfettered access to kids through The Second Mile, and did nothing about it. If Anne McQueary was told this version of events, then she must be either one of the most cold and callous women on the planet (to not take action).<br /><br />Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-7798518536522649762017-10-17T08:04:37.954-04:002017-10-17T08:04:37.954-04:00Tim,
Ironically, the protest at the Student Union ...Tim,<br />Ironically, the protest at the Student Union Building (HUB) took place on Blue-White weekend in 2001 -- just a few weeks after Mike's erroneous original date for the incident.<br /><br />I checked the TV Guide and Rudy was aired on Friday night, but not on any other nights that week. <br /><br />Credit cards records and phone records would go a long way in clearing this up. I'm guessing a credit card record would likely show more money was spent on booze than on sneakers that day.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-54888361357012699082017-10-17T08:00:32.143-04:002017-10-17T08:00:32.143-04:00Tim,
I found the spring break times from 2001-2003...Tim,<br />I found the spring break times from 2001-2003 on PSU Sports web-site and wrote about them in the blogpost re: Tony "TV Guide" Sassano. <br /><br />"To determine the dates for Spring Break, all Sassano needed to do was pull up the PSU baseball or softball press releases to identify the possible dates, which were: March 2, 2001; March 1, 2002; and March 7, 2003. He could have bought three TV Guides instead of twenty." <br /><br />The class schedules would be great to see because in some curricula there are NOT classes on Fridays.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-51124837357341346052017-10-17T07:57:19.038-04:002017-10-17T07:57:19.038-04:00Defense attorneys didn't even attempt to discr...Defense attorneys didn't even attempt to discredit McQueary's testimony at trial. Mike's award in the whistleblower suit bolstered public perception that he was a victim in all this and attorneys risked alienating the jury by attempting to discredit him. To date, Mike has never been aggressively cross examined by anyone.Linda Berklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03605500542366863244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-382987524572061082017-10-17T07:33:26.921-04:002017-10-17T07:33:26.921-04:00Funny how fast both MM and John Sr. jump to..........Funny how fast both MM and John Sr. jump to...........insertion. Why hasn't Mrs. McQuerry's description and time line of that evening ever been discussed as she was there that evening to pick up the phone and knew "something was wrong". Did she go straight to bed after passing the phone to JM and leave her hysterical son that could barely verbalize alone to discuss this delicate matter with JM? If the phone records are accurate and Dr. Dranov's visit is later and shorter than previously thought, I find it hard to believe he would have left MM without at least offering a Valium or recommending a Psych eval. Oh, and agreeing to tell Joe in the morning would seem to be low on the list with MM's mental health being at risk. I am sure his mother tucked him and he wasn't sobbing as he drifted of to sleep. Surely, he said something to his mother that night and I doubt she would of said .....You can tell Joe in the morning and that would make things..........all better.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06844675916442311667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-23749985545013262202017-10-17T04:25:48.659-04:002017-10-17T04:25:48.659-04:00Ray - When was spring break in 2001? I couldn'...Ray - When was spring break in 2001? I couldn't find a listing for that year but from 1997-2000 it was about the second week in March. <br /><br />You say "There was nothing in his [Mike McQueary's] job as a football graduate assistant that required him to be present on the campus." <br /><br />That wouldn't be true if Mike had graduate classes to attend. I wonder if the investigators ever bothered to look at his transcript to see if he had classes that semester. A transcript would be easy to obtain. <br /><br />Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-29838480727133636112017-10-17T04:12:25.176-04:002017-10-17T04:12:25.176-04:00It's strange that multiple sets of defense law...It's strange that multiple sets of defense lawyers couldn't convince jurors that McQueary's testimony was unreliable, as this article easily does. Maybe the jurors' minds were already made up prior to trial.<br /><br />There doesn't even seem to be solid evidence the shower incident happened on Friday, Feb. 9th. It might have been a day or more before that. <br /><br />I wonder if the investigators even pursued other avenues to try and set the date, such as asking when and where McQueary bought his new sneakers? Maybe there was a credit card charge or canceled check for that purchase that could have been tracked down. <br /><br />Even the Rudy movie is suspect as a way to set the date because it depends on McQueary's poor memory. Even if the Rudy movie was shown on TV that night, it may have also aired on previous nights if it was a cable movie. Given McQueary's poor memory, maybe it was not a TV movie at all. Maybe he just forgot that he rented the video. <br /><br />McQueary testified that he thought he was testifying to the police when he talked with Schultz because he has seen Schultz with the police when there was a protest at the student union building. That protest occurred after Feb. 9 so McQueary's memory was wrong there too. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.com