tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post3680256143817973337..comments2024-01-30T04:57:48.673-05:00Comments on Second Mile Sandusky Scandal: FOUR WORDS in 10 min. & 3 Vague Curley Emails Mr.Costas Barry Bozemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-12561660351407332922012-09-04T06:45:35.847-04:002012-09-04T06:45:35.847-04:00I re-read the testimony of McQueary, Curley, &...I re-read the testimony of McQueary, Curley, & Schultz last night. A few pertinent issues stick out to me:<br /><br />1. McQueary's testimony is so vague that the ability to go forward with possible perjury charges against Curley & Schultz is unbelievable. Both attorneys for Curley & Schultz attempted to make the connections about how invalid McQueary's testimony was but were thwarted by the judge. My opinion, in reading McQueary's testimony, is that he had it made up in his mind when he heard the "slapping sounds" that sex was what was going on. Even before he saw something! What he actually did see and report was pure conjecture on his part. Was it inappropriate, most definitely, but in no way did he see any anal intercourse, sodomy, etc. Because he was doubtful of what he saw, he could not relate anything specific to Paterno, Curley, or Schultz. He even admits to, in his own testimony, to not questioning why Sandusky was continuing to be on campus, until after he was approached by the police with his little forays onto message boards!<br /><br />2. Curley clearly states that it was HIS plan (no mention of Paterno here folks!) to perform the steps of notifying the Second Mile and speaking with Sandusky about him not coming into the Lasch Buidling again with children. He states this under oath! He also states he did not have the information that anything McQueary saw was "sexual" and Curley states it was "horsing" around.<br /><br />3. Schultz states he thought it was reported to C&Y in his testimony and they would investigate it further, like they had done in 1998. Is there a record of this? Was it decided that it was an unfounded report? Information that does not get recorded as an "official" child abuse report eventually gets destroyed. Were records of this alleged report by Schultz to C&Y ultimately destroyed?<br /><br />The bottom line for me is the lack of clear, good information from McQueary totally flavoring this case as he was not really sure of what he saw. He only "thought" he was sure it was of a "sexual nature" because of his assumptions of the sounds he heard and the brief glances in the mirror that he saw. I am not an expert, but I can think in a logical way, and, if a 50 something year old man was anally penetrating a 10-12 year old boy, then I think that maybe that child would be crying out in pain??? McQueary also testified that Sandusky and the child were standing up and the child was not bent over. Did what McQueary see constitute totally inappropriate behavior: YESSSS!! Should there have been more close follow-up by PSU administration in regards to Sandusky and his campus accessibility? YESSS!!! This is where the problem lies for PSU, not in a cover-up but in poor judgement. <br /><br />The other really culpable party is the Second Mile and what they did or did not do with the 2001 incident. 2ND Mile Board members, if I recall correctly, report of not being told about Sandusky in the shower again with a child. Just like there is Where's Waldo, we need Where's Jack (Raykovitz). They are even more culpable in this incident since they have primary responsibility for child abuse clearance for any employee, including Sandusky, so where was their follow-up??? <br /><br />I believe that Curley & Schultz will be acquitted of perjury charges. If and when that happens, what happens to the entire case against PSU, the Freeh Report (B.S.) and the NCAA's rush to judgement? <br />Maybe some traction for the truth will be gained then.JLishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033665568114790274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-80986373785585210202012-09-04T03:32:45.715-04:002012-09-04T03:32:45.715-04:00One of the oddest things about McQueary's vari...One of the oddest things about McQueary's various testimonies is the "Rhythmic" and "Sexual" descriptor of 2 or 3 slapping sounds coming from a shower. <br /><br />Tom Farrell attorney for Schultz asked him at the Perjury hearing "so the slapping sounds were like this?" as he clapped his hands together 3 times. "You got it" Replies Mike. <br /><br />YOU GOT IT? 3 claps were what Mike heard? <br />Well there is no Rhythm to 3 claps - since rhythm is established by repeating patterns.<br />and two hands clapping is "sexual" to Mike? <br /><br />This has all the earmarks of made up and coached testimony. I can just hear prosecutors telling Mike - you better say those 2 or 3 claps were "rhythic" and "sexual". <br />Next time you're in the shower slap your palm against your wet thigh or stomach and then against the wall. Then slap your wet foot against the floor. Hear any difference? Does it sound "sexual" to you? <br /><br />Mike McQueary's statements and testimony are a bad joke. For me there are only a couple of explanations. He either thought enhancing his testimony would help the prosecution of Sandusky and not hurt PSU - and he wanted to be the center of attention for helping bring Sandusky down. Which isn't very bright. OR<br />He went to Joe's that morning thinking he could parlay his locker room visit into Kenny Jackson's job - believing that Joe would want to keep this quiet. But Joe surprise him and kicked it upstairs since JS no longer worked for him and Mike was forced to back off on his 'sexual' statements to Tim and Gary. <br />If Mike's a liar or simply feckless anything could be the truth. Mike's now looking for a big payday and a book deal I guess. But the things that Mike has said make no sense. <br /><br />Rhythmic and Sexual my AssBarry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-42366271124839626992012-09-04T03:14:22.247-04:002012-09-04T03:14:22.247-04:00unknown is that scratchy broken record constantly ...unknown is that scratchy broken record constantly repeating the same tired statements.<br /><br />WE Know Mike told Dr. Dranov he saw no sex act. He heard one Three times. <br />We know Mike said "I didn't know what to think - I didn't know what I was seeing <br />WE Know Mike said "I visualized - you know things run through your mind" speaking of his mind set prior to his glance. <br />We Know Mike glanced for "one or two seconds" <br />We know all Mike could see was JS backside and a boy standing upright with his feet on the floor in front of him" <br />but we also know Mike told Dr. Dranov he saw the boy start to come out of the shower and an arm drag him back inside. <br />and <br />WE know Mike said he saw no pain, distress, fear or upset on the face of the boy who never asked for his help or cried out during this supposed rape. <br /><br />Unknown is in the wrong place trying to reach the wrong people with his distortions and lack of attention to the facts about Mr McQueary and his vastly varying testimony. A guy who told most everyone he saw some horsing around and no sex act. (Dranov, Curley, Paterno and Schultz. He told chat room buddies it was horsing around. He told his wide receivers he stopped it.)<br />But the truth is if there was a boy in trouble that night Mike failed him and if he truly believe he was being subjected to anal intercourse he should have told the police after talking to his daddy if that's what he needed. <br />But he didn't and for 10 years he sat silent while other's suffered because he failed to act. But the truth is he had nothing to act upon. He couldn't even do more than glance when he believed a kid was suffering. <br />Unknown can rely on Mike all he wants but I'm glad I don't have to rely on him to keep kids from being molested.<br />Barry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-32606205934861448462012-09-03T17:39:45.426-04:002012-09-03T17:39:45.426-04:00Unknown-For the purposes of this comment I will as...Unknown-For the purposes of this comment I will assume that Joe, at 74, understood that Mcq was conveying something of a sexual nature(albeit vague, and certainly not sodomy in a descriptive way). But I am not sure what that proves to all of those who want to tear JP down. Costas in effect accuses JP of making a terrible unfathomable mistake(strong, tough words by a small guy) by not taking MCQ seriously. Lets look at the facts. Mcq sees something, that night reports that something to his father and DR D, and father and DR D advise Mcq, based on what they presumably were told by him, to see JP. Presuably they don't tell him make a report of what he saw. Rather, they dumped the problem in JP's lap. NOW if JP, after listening to Mcq, did NOT take what Mcq had to say seriously, or wanted to cover things up, he would of either ahve tried to convince MCq he didn't see anything, would have instructed/ suggested Mcq to say nothing to anyone, and/or would have tried to soft shoe it. BUT JP didn't do any of that. JP as a PSU employeee(and JP was approached by Mcq in that capacity) took the matter seriously enough and followed what he belived to be proper PSU procedure and REPORT the incident to the head of the PSU police and to his immediate superior(the AD). JP did his job. It was for others to do theirs. It is easy for a guy like Costas, whose job does not involve making real world, real time decisions that have a real effect on peoples lives, with the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, and of course to create a story line, to hold JP up against the perfect man, to only find out that which we already knew, that JP was not perfect. To have a GREAT story, you need to have a terrible unfathomable mistake, and to have a mistake of such a magnitude, you need a hero to make it. This whole story, from the medias perspective, has always been about JP. The story lines and script were written within days after the JS story broke and were driven by JP as the main character . Implicit, but not said in the Costas and others condemnation is that JP was the Pope of Happy Valley. Thats what this all boils down to.HKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02589150826396026926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-56607403293444180942012-09-03T14:27:14.099-04:002012-09-03T14:27:14.099-04:00If MM had testified that he said "horseplay&q...If MM had testified that he said "horseplay" to Joe and Joe testified that MM said "sexual" to him, there would be something to argue about.<br /><br />If MM had testified that he said "sexual" to Joe and Joe testified that MM said "horseplay" to him, there would be something to argue about.<br /><br />But MM testified that he said "sexual" to Joe and Joe testified that MM said "sexual" to him. So what is there to argue about?<br /><br /> Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10892479039253450973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-24066677952939365382012-09-03T14:19:57.601-04:002012-09-03T14:19:57.601-04:00Ron,
Barry mentions ps4rs.org above. PS4RS.org is...Ron,<br />Barry mentions ps4rs.org above. PS4RS.org is an organization formed with the specific mission of voting out the current PSU Board of Trustees and enacting positive change at PSU. They were formed following the firing of Paterno and their numbers have more than doubled since the release of the Freeh Report and the NCAA sanctions. They currently have about 10,000 members - alumni, students, and supporters of PSU.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-26125005236874325002012-09-03T14:13:29.222-04:002012-09-03T14:13:29.222-04:00"This is definitely one version of how that d..."This is definitely one version of how that description to Joe could have gone."<br /><br />How about the "version" set forth in MM's and Joe's testimonies, namely, MM testified that he told Joe that what he saw was "sexual" and Joe testified that what MM saw was "sexual"?<br /><br />We have two witnesses confirming each other's testimony. What's the problem? There's no need to imagine conversations. Why don't we stick to the sworn testimony and lay off the creative writing?<br /><br /><br /> Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10892479039253450973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-74284153149826749282012-09-03T14:02:03.642-04:002012-09-03T14:02:03.642-04:00MM testified at the Sandusky trial as to what he t...MM testified at the Sandusky trial as to what he told Joe as follows :<br /><br />“I told him and I want to make sure I'm clear. I made sure he knew it was sexual and wrong. There was no doubt."<br /><br />MM's testimony before the Grand Jury and at the Preliminary Hearing is to the same effect. Joe, in turn, CONFIRMED MM's testimony when he told the Grand Jury that "It was a sexual nature".<br /><br />MM NEVER testified that he said TO JOE:<br /><br />"I couldn't really say anything bad was happening but it was just weird to me." <br /><br />You're making up conversations. Do you think that it helps Joe's cause to imagine conversations that never took place? Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10892479039253450973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-42624613574947667332012-09-03T13:19:22.598-04:002012-09-03T13:19:22.598-04:00Barry - Jessi
I joined the PS4RS this AM. I am n...Barry - Jessi<br /><br />I joined the PS4RS this AM. I am not an alum of PSU, my oldest attended PSU and left to join our firm and later graduated from DeSales Univ. His wife is a PennStater, both BA & Masters. My wife and I are former Nittany Lion Club members for 33 years. She even has letters from Joe over the years.<br /><br />The BOT should be ashamed of themselves accepting Freehs report as gospel and accepting the NCAA sanctions without a fight. The NCAA will regret they applied any sanctions based on the Freeh report.<br /><br />I don't believe Tom Corbett is a friend of Penn State University.<br /><br />My heart and prayers go out to the Paterno and PennState family.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02790288022231489462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-38662828135970300642012-09-03T11:23:35.148-04:002012-09-03T11:23:35.148-04:00Ron,
the PSAA is not allowed to involved itself in...Ron,<br />the PSAA is not allowed to involved itself in anything related to elections, which includes any sort of activity aimed toward the BOT. Judging by the defense of our "culture" written by Roger Williams, I would bet people at PSAA are extremely frustrated and would love to get in on this fight but are hamstrung by their own bylaws. We as alumni have to rally the troops on our own, and you can help by sharing this site with everyone you know.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01038300827945998559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-54853280711384997392012-09-02T23:31:16.478-04:002012-09-02T23:31:16.478-04:00Hey Ron,
I think almost everyone we have involved ...Hey Ron,<br />I think almost everyone we have involved is a Penn State Alumnus. The 9600 members of PS4RS on FaceBook for instance - that's Penn Staters for Responsible Leadership. Reaching the remainder of the 500,000 alumni is not that easy. The website has been growing daily up to 120,000 visits in August from 1474 in June. Barry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-9898542965548723742012-09-02T22:03:06.838-04:002012-09-02T22:03:06.838-04:00Why not involve the Penn State Alumni Association....Why not involve the Penn State Alumni Association. <br /><br />Over 500,000 strong should have enough clout to pressure the BOT to reject the Freeh report and fight the NCAA sanctions.<br /><br />The lack of action by the BOT smells bad. How does those entrusted in protecting the University allow Joseph V. Paterno along with administrative personnel and the University to be defamed and scandalized without a fight.<br /><br />BTW, Linda Kelly AG (Pitt) Bob Costas (Syracuse) PennState haters. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02790288022231489462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-74227084921729402972012-09-02T21:32:11.414-04:002012-09-02T21:32:11.414-04:00Just click on the title of the article and it show...Just click on the title of the article and it shows up on it's own separate page the same thing happens when you click on "read more" - at that point the link is in the address window.Barry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-74576706407166789212012-09-02T21:00:23.179-04:002012-09-02T21:00:23.179-04:00Hey guys, great work, but you need to put each art...Hey guys, great work, but you need to put each article / piece on a separate page, so those of us who care, can tweet or post links to each one more easily....banana jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08573890662465362056noreply@blogger.com