tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post4834846626489792388..comments2024-01-30T04:57:48.673-05:00Comments on Second Mile Sandusky Scandal: The Limits of Memory and Suggestive MemoryBarry Bozemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-45863379590467868702013-04-02T17:46:41.510-04:002013-04-02T17:46:41.510-04:00It's possible that the boy (maybe 14-yrs-old a...It's possible that the boy (maybe 14-yrs-old as per Ziegler) was compliant and not visibly stressed. It's also possible that Dr Dranov is covering for his lack of reporting back then. It's significant I believe that the trial jury did not convict Sandusky on this specific claim by McQueary. <br /><br />The PSU BoT really mucked up this case by proceeding to offer $$ as quickly as possible to victims and their lawyers. We need to find some young men of The Second Mile who want to protect kids rather than having lawyers focused on financial rewards. Some of these victimized boys could really make a difference now...they could become heroes, as has Aaron Fisher. rdkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007253694089460950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-67472185210509465252013-04-01T11:24:49.097-04:002013-04-01T11:24:49.097-04:00From Dr. Jonathan Dranov's trial testimony: &q...From Dr. Jonathan Dranov's trial testimony: "And then he (McQueary) said he looked toward the locker or shower and a young boy looked around. He (McQueary) made eye contact with the boy. I asked him - to the best of my (Dranov) recollection, I (Dranov) asked him (McQueary) if the boy seemed upset or frightened. He said no. An arm reached out and pulled the boy back.<br /><br />Yes, Dranov is recalling a conversation from 11 years ago, so his memory could also be hazy. But asking if the boy seemed upset or frightened and McQueary saying no is a specific point remembered and Dranov did not have multiple conversations with McQueary about this or similar topics to cloud his memory. If Sandusky was molesting, let alone raping this boy, the boy would have shown some type of distress on his face that McQueary would have conveyed. <br /><br />I think the account provided by Dranov of what McQueary told him on the night the incident actually occurred is probably the most accurate one available, especially given that it was from an independent 3rd party.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03720169386357383860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-74107603560614458762013-03-31T14:18:05.392-04:002013-03-31T14:18:05.392-04:00Dear JLish, THANK YOU for the link above.
A few...Dear JLish, THANK YOU for the link above. <br /><br />A few thoughts: <br />1. We must know a LOT more today about the brain's ability to develop false memories than even when this article was published (1997)! What an opportunity to make a difference.<br /><br />2. A key to distinguishing truth from false memories lies in corroboration. Without reliable corroboration, some truths of years ago may simply not be knowable.<br /><br />3. Perhaps the most effective way to stop child sexual victimization, then, is to teach everyone everywhere the signs of such. A comprehensive, multi-media, global effort to disseminate the teachings such as those in the Clemente report and the research of Dr Loftus et al. could REALLY make a difference. Such an effort led by the Paternos and PSU alumni would be magnificent on many counts.<br /><br />4. The concept of resistance seems to counter the concept of susceptibility to memory implanting. I would love some professionals' thoughts on this SPECIFICALLY regarding Jerry Sandusky and his continued insistence that he never "did those things" to the boys. He has certainly been exposed to horrific details, repeatedly perhaps. Yet he claims it didn't happen. I.e. JS has apparently been resistant to memory implanting.<br /><br />Becky rdkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007253694089460950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-73114811561463920932013-03-31T07:36:06.207-04:002013-03-31T07:36:06.207-04:00Just read any article by Elizabeth Loftus, an expe...Just read any article by Elizabeth Loftus, an expert on false memory, and you will find out how fickle our memories are.<br /><br />http://faculty.washington.edu/eloftus/Articles/sciam.htmJLishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033665568114790274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-50108374413990091802013-03-30T12:03:53.131-04:002013-03-30T12:03:53.131-04:00Thank you, Ray! Perhaps because of the unreliabil...Thank you, Ray! Perhaps because of the unreliability of memory of details long past, we could attempt to shift focus from punitive $$ claims to constructive efforts to stop child sexual victimization going forward. E.g., the link below describes a huge opportunity...last week's two-day conference of 50+ national organizations to develop specific actions aimed at just this. And they credit "the aftermath of the Sandusky scandal" (which I think is you guys' and the Paterno family's<br />efforts to make sense of all this) with providing their impetus. Plow on!<br /><br />http://www.delmarvanow.com/viewart/20130313/SPORTS/303130085/Youth-sports-organizations-react-Sandusky-caserdkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007253694089460950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-28969237778104006462013-03-30T07:07:12.955-04:002013-03-30T07:07:12.955-04:00YOU COULD MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT ABOUT JOPA'S ...YOU COULD MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT ABOUT JOPA'S GRAND JURY TESTIMONY. THE WORDS "FONDLING" AND "SEXUAL" SEEPED INTO JOE'S TESTIMONY.horseeflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01127989398440439670noreply@blogger.com