tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post751041229905525015..comments2024-01-30T04:57:48.673-05:00Comments on Second Mile Sandusky Scandal: Victim 6 Case's Discovery Materials Could Reveal True Sandusky "Cover-ups" Barry Bozemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-26416862757379413832013-11-20T15:57:38.949-05:002013-11-20T15:57:38.949-05:00Gregory Verrnon - I think you are correct that Pen...Gregory Verrnon - I think you are correct that Penn State had no liability for victim 6 since they had no prior complaint about Sandusky abusing boys on campus. Victim 6 has a nuisance lawsuit, which Penn State was very willing to settle for what it is worth. <br /><br />The problem is that Mr. Janet wants far more than it is worth so is making a bigger nuisance by taking it to federal court. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-42634153632065329302013-11-20T15:48:49.551-05:002013-11-20T15:48:49.551-05:00Rums Du - Penn State announced publicly that their...Rums Du - Penn State announced publicly that their negotiators and Mr. Janet were not in the same ball park regarding the value of victim 6's claim. They would have settled for what the claim is worth. Penn State can't pay one victim several to many times what a claim is worth or it would make their position weak in any future negotiations. <br /><br />I doubt that discovery will reveal that much new information. Just because it is discoverable in a lawsuit does not mean it will be made public or that the judge will find it relevant to air in court. <br /><br />I think Mr. Janet has a nuisance lawsuit unless he has new evidence that Penn State had complaints about Sandusky prior to victim 6 in 1998. I believe he is trying to just make a big nuisance to get a bigger settlement. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-42407831379653664552013-11-16T02:07:37.824-05:002013-11-16T02:07:37.824-05:00Public opinion gets nowhere in a Federal court. P...Public opinion gets nowhere in a Federal court. Physical evidence and facts on record are the only things that count. The State of Pennsylvania is on record as saying that no abuse took place in 1998.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946697156007688080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-3566619508223388192013-11-15T20:58:09.204-05:002013-11-15T20:58:09.204-05:00Maybe I should state it this way: Even assuming a...Maybe I should state it this way: Even assuming all 4 knew of the investigation (3 of which had no need to know), the finding of unfounded by RG would prohibit PSU from taking any averse action against JS. In light of the rigorous investigation by child protection authorities for adopting and accepting foster children, I find it incredible that any rational person would assume that JS was anything other that a goofy guy who had been around kids so much that he perhaps lost a feeling for the boundary between appropriate and inappropriate behavior.<br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946697156007688080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-31653325274026856362013-11-15T14:51:18.819-05:002013-11-15T14:51:18.819-05:00Yes, something like that. I can't speak intell...Yes, something like that. I can't speak intelligently on the choices for a legal course of action, but something has to be done NOW, before more damage is done to the university. The longer these phony settlements to phony victims go on, the more it damages the university. The university is simply not liable for PA Attorney General negligence in allowing a predator to remain free to hurt PSU and children visiting PSU.Truthseekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06434780738644463324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-39892806337308629132013-11-15T14:20:26.747-05:002013-11-15T14:20:26.747-05:00What of a class-action suit?What of a class-action suit?rdkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007253694089460950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-21408278770809787062013-11-15T14:16:55.683-05:002013-11-15T14:16:55.683-05:00Perhaps Ray Gricar isn't deceased but living a...Perhaps Ray Gricar isn't deceased but living an anonymous life with millions paid to "make him go away". rdkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007253694089460950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-22356678522821689622013-11-15T10:26:54.871-05:002013-11-15T10:26:54.871-05:00I'm learning a lot about this scandal, thank y...I'm learning a lot about this scandal, thank you so much Ray! It's frustrating to a degree that makes me fidget in my seat when you expose these deceptions, withholding of information, and outright lying by PA state agencies and their lawyers. <br /> I guess my question today is, what can be done by citizens that want these illegalities to stop? How can we force disclosure and compliance with the law? Spanier has done something about this by suing for defamation against Freeh. And I would like to see Penn State get help for the obvious bullying and intimidation they are enduring under a corrupt PA state government. As you pointed out to me earlier, there will be no lawsuits on PSU's behalf with the current corrupt BoT in place. But there must be some way to force these people to lie under oath to finally get them out of the way as THE impediment to due process for PSU and Joe. Can someone file on PSU's behalf in a federal court? Can it be proved that PSU's interests are disproportionately underrepresented by the corrupt BoT, and that they are essentially being held hostage? The university is being denied an accurate and majority representation of what is needed for their legal rights. So can it be shown that the BoT is practicing tyranny in collusion with a corrupt state government, that has seriously and illegally hurt the university? Can lawyers be hired by faculty and administrators (that aren't afraid of the truth), to file in federal court on behalf of the university?<br /> All of this is dragging on way too long, and it's painful to see it. I know Kane said she wants to get at the truth for PSU, but I'm concerned she and Moulton just aren't acting decisively and quickly enough for whatever reason. Possibly because, although well intentioned, they are operating within a corrupt state government environment. Can Senator Yudichak do something like file a motion of some sort to get help on a federal level?Truthseekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06434780738644463324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-37246949520876809402013-11-15T09:44:04.675-05:002013-11-15T09:44:04.675-05:00For a few months now, a lot of us have wondered wh...For a few months now, a lot of us have wondered why Penn State wouldn't simply settle with Victim 6. Why settle with all of these other victims, most of which nobody had been aware of and hadn't even brought criminal charges against Sandusky, but take Victim 6's case to court?<br /><br />This article might make sense - its in Victim 6's best interest to not settle. Let's say by insisting on going to court and to discovery phase that Howard Janet is essentially blackmailing Penn State into doing the ONE THING that they fear most - going into a discovery phase where all their communications become public. If that's the case, why settle for $2-3 million, when Janet can try for $20-$30 million?<br /><br />Now, Penn State is screwed! Why would they pay $20 million to a single victim, when they paid $2 million to all the others? What insurance company would approve THAT payment? What would the press think/say about this outlier? Especially given the results of the 1998 investigation. So they CAN'T pay whatever Janet is really truly asking for. However, they also CAN'T go to court and have their lies exposed!<br /><br />Penn State is really trapped in a Catch-22 situation here! They WON'T go to court...they will NEVER let this get to discovery. So they have to find a way to very quietly find the money to make Howard Janet and Victim 6 go away. (Don't expect them to get the insurance company to pay.) So don't expect to see ANY press releases from la Torre on this case!<br /><br />I really hope Howard Janet reads this blog and these comments. Try to get as much money from Penn State as possible - they WILL pay it - as soon as they find a back-door method to raise the money to settle.Jeff Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745348951119063296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-57398448546476485792013-11-15T09:28:46.762-05:002013-11-15T09:28:46.762-05:00Short answer: The Freeh Report said Schultz, Curl...Short answer: The Freeh Report said Schultz, Curley, and Spanier all knew that abuse took place in 1998, as did Joe Paterno, who (according to Freeh) followed the investigation closely. <br /><br />Howard Janet heard the press conference just like everyone else did and he's got public opinion on his side.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-47563429794225998652013-11-15T03:32:52.920-05:002013-11-15T03:32:52.920-05:00I am a bit confused here. An investigation was le...I am a bit confused here. An investigation was led by DPW and involved CYS and two police departments. A data package was sent to DA Ray Gricar who determined that no crime had been committed and pronounced the allegation unfounded. How is PSU even involved in this outside of a detective who team-ed up State College police?<br /><br />I know in CA that a big chunk of abuse allegations are made by ex spouses and significant others in an attempt at revenge. The investigation is confidential (no one without need to know is told anything), and if the result of the investigation is false, any third party who harms the accused is subject to criminal and civil penalties. Since it is difficult for the accused to prove an averse action was taken because of the allegation, they usually move to another city.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946697156007688080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-17247459458522758032013-11-14T19:52:04.142-05:002013-11-14T19:52:04.142-05:00Excellent. Thank you!Excellent. Thank you!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05174872369531373401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-34425131947799015562013-11-14T19:08:05.129-05:002013-11-14T19:08:05.129-05:00Yes he does, which is why I'm kind of surprise...Yes he does, which is why I'm kind of surprised PSU is fighting back on this one. Not sure what he's asking for, but it must be a lot to make PSU actually try to take a stand. I mean they gave Matt Sandusky money for absolutely nothing. But I'm with you, get as much out in the open as possible.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03720169386357383860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-73210327213695911772013-11-14T18:42:21.307-05:002013-11-14T18:42:21.307-05:00As you know, I "advised" Mr. Janet to go...As you know, I "advised" Mr. Janet to go for the brass ring back in April.<br /><br />http://www.notpsu.blogspot.com/2013/04/psus-legal-dilemma-in-victim-6-case.html<br /><br />Janet has PSU by the cajones.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-37520827360438311522013-11-14T18:36:36.488-05:002013-11-14T18:36:36.488-05:00Oh, yeah.Oh, yeah.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-78217977501617537192013-11-14T18:26:32.259-05:002013-11-14T18:26:32.259-05:00I wouldn't say Mr. Janet is grasping at straws...I wouldn't say Mr. Janet is grasping at straws, I would say he's trying to blackmail PSU into a settlement. Victim 6 knows not much happened between him and Sandusky and most likely that not much happened between the other victims he knew and Sandusky. What Victim 6 and Mr. Janet also know is that PSU is handing out a lot of money to any person coming out of the woodwork claiming abuse by Sandusky without anything to support their claims.<br /><br />Making those requested documents discoverable (also then available to the public) would, as Ray points out, probably shed more light on the real conspiracy going on. Mr. Janet knows PSU does not want those documents made public, so the threat of making them public, no matter how credible the threat actually is, could force PSU into a bigger settlement, especially since his client's "abuse" is one of the more well know incidents.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03720169386357383860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-23266126813727014762013-11-14T17:52:01.745-05:002013-11-14T17:52:01.745-05:00Ray, are you sending this to Howard Janet? My att...Ray, are you sending this to Howard Janet? My attitude on the V6 suit is starting to turn. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.mhentzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17177731477541716848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-83473231878783210352013-11-14T15:50:44.180-05:002013-11-14T15:50:44.180-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Charlieo444https://www.blogger.com/profile/11192976953505798999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-29320735135763159362013-11-14T14:57:42.777-05:002013-11-14T14:57:42.777-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kathy E.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06083628092274581916noreply@blogger.com