tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post9103749473155559730..comments2024-01-30T04:57:48.673-05:00Comments on Second Mile Sandusky Scandal: Who is the liar? Joe Paterno or Louis Freeh?Barry Bozemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-88446088190606204332012-09-03T12:37:42.635-04:002012-09-03T12:37:42.635-04:00Joe Paterno spent his entire life working for the ...Joe Paterno spent his entire life working for the benefit of his student athletes. I don't believe for a second that he would jeopardize any child's welfare and most certainly not in support of Sandusky who he didn't even like. When you libel someone without any finite proof you had better be ready to suffer the consequences. Rdfryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12900367542522157315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-58928450581115720182012-08-14T18:07:28.553-04:002012-08-14T18:07:28.553-04:00I honestly believe you are missing the larger issu...I honestly believe you are missing the larger issue. The reason for the fight is larger than Joe Paterno. What has happened is that the Administration has allowed an unsubstantiated narrative to spin out of control and it continues to harm a great University.<br /><br />People are looking for the truth, not pieces of it, but the entire story. It has been widely reported that a source from the Freeh group has indicated that the investigation they were asked to perform was very narrow in scope. It was never intended to be used as a vehicle to punish and was not constructed in a way that a typical criminal investigation is built. It was a study into how the governance at the University performed and how future actions could help prevent gaps in how the University is managed.<br /><br />We get it. We get the fact that there is much more to this than has been reported. We get the fact that putting Joe Paterno's face and the Penn State logo on the screen or on the cover every 30 seconds or every morning brings a significant bump in revenue. Guess what, that doesn't help the victims and it certainly doesn't stop abuse.<br /><br />There is a deeper problem here and it is not getting publicized. Politicians, TSM, government agencies were all involved in this process. They failed as much or more than anyone else. Gov Corbett, the TWO time AG in the state of Pennsylvania during the 90's and the 2000's did little to stop a known serial pedophile until after his election to the Governor's office. CYS and DPW did little or nothing, or perhaps even stonewalled/botched investigations into Sandusky years ago. I think people would be more comfortable if the media was more interested in the kids and less in the almighty dollar and actually dug into the full scope of the crimes committed by Sandusky. But as I said before, that doesn't bring in revenue, and frankly, they are too lazy and too cheap to spend the money it takes to do the hard work.<br /><br />Finally, there is outrage at the hypocrisy that is clearly evident in this case.<br /><br />Mark Emmert was President of the University of Washington from 2004 until he took over as the President of the NCAA. During that period, an ongoing case of several alleged rapes of women by a UW football player was covered up by the University. Senior officials, according to sworn testimony, worked to conceal the allegations of one particular victim indicating that reporting to police would "reflect poorly" on UW and that the University treated the accuser with "deliberate indifference". Interesting choice of words.<br /><br />"It's definitely been an uphill battle to prove I was mistreated," she said. "Finally, the courts are on my side -- at least for now." Wow, the University, of which Mark Emmert was president of at the time of this quote, abused this woman for a period of almost 8 years until a court finally said there was "ample evidence" to argue the case in front of a jury. Shameful.<br /><br />I am not proclaiming anyone innocent or anyone guilty, but let's stop all the grandstanding by those of you who have never liked Penn State and take this crime by Sandusky to attempt to say the whole lot is bad, it simply isn't. Saying so makes you look immature. <br /><br />As you would certainly demand your day in court, the only thing being demanded by the Penn State family is the same consideration in this case.jkarshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18420726956564604756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-84703503399103828902012-08-14T17:34:07.585-04:002012-08-14T17:34:07.585-04:00Please tell me you are kidding.Please tell me you are kidding.jkarshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18420726956564604756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-36567433622316868012012-08-06T12:32:48.349-04:002012-08-06T12:32:48.349-04:00So explain this Anonymous
The 1998 investigation...So explain this Anonymous <br /><br />The 1998 investigation ended with this.<br />DPW concluded that there was no criminal or pedophile behavior on the part of Sandusky. <br /><br />So why would Joe LIE about knowing that if he did know?<br />All he would say if he knew is "The PA Department of Public Welfare along with CYS, District Attorney's Gricar and Arnold, and the State College and PSU police investigated Sandusky thoroughly in 1998 and issued a 100 page report. Their conclusion was the Sandusky showed no pedophile tendencies and that no criminal behavior was involved. Given this extensive evaluation the act of giving a boy a bear hug in the shower's (which is the best explanation of what Mike McQueary might have seen in his 2 second glances on Feb 9 2001) led us to believe that this incident was no more criminal than the 1998 incident."<br /><br />Answer us that please anonymous.<br />Knowing about 1998 is not incriminating - it's exculpatory.Barry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-71855884556078968462012-08-06T11:58:08.902-04:002012-08-06T11:58:08.902-04:00There is no FACT that Paterno knew about 1998. Fr...There is no FACT that Paterno knew about 1998. Freeh infers he knew based on a single e-mail said Curley touched base with the coach.<br /><br />The inference is incorrect. Curley is a former PSU player. To the players, Paterno is simply "Joe."<br /><br />Curley was definitely referring to Sandusky in that e-mail.<br /><br />Dishonest Louis Freeh changed the subject line from Re: Jerry to Re: Joe PaternoRayBleharhttp://www.notpsu.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-26256139479446522962012-08-06T00:01:44.909-04:002012-08-06T00:01:44.909-04:00What EXACTLY should Paterno have done that was wit...What EXACTLY should Paterno have done that was within legal perimeters as well as his role as head football coach? He followed chain of command. IF he had input, and that's a big if, it was only that, input, not decision-making authority. That rests upon his superiors in ad.inistratiin as well as BOT. The head coach, past & present players had nothing.g to do with it. Don't penalize them & the university for action.s/I.action.s of individuals that didn't fulfill their obligations. However, McQeary should be penalized for 1) not leaving Sandusky a bloody wreck if he really saw it & 2) for not making a report with law enforcement & protective services HIMSELF. Really, he had to call his dad, then wait until the next morning to tell Paterno. Makes NO sense at all. Btw no ties to PSU, 20 year educator &I coach, family man, honorable discharge from US military. NCAA will have egg on face when this is done. Looks like there will be much more from legal side &I there should be. Resignations, firings, & lawsuits are on the horizon. Reinstate the scholarships & wins. The kids did nothing wrong here. Keep the post-season ban & fine. Remove BOT & rewrite all administrative guidelines & by-laws concerning reporting. Restructure campus police & training of them & all employed there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-41781607609122596902012-08-03T20:02:55.297-04:002012-08-03T20:02:55.297-04:00I agree that there are some troubling things here....I agree that there are some troubling things here. But I am just not seeing past the fact that Paterno knew. Even if he was only consulted one time. Once is enough. Any criminal will tell you, it only takes once. How is it fair to the rest of us, who do not have positions of great power and great stature, that if we had done one tenth of what anyone involved had done we would be in prison for the rest of our lives, probably being raped ourselves. Sorry, but I don't buy it. Neither do most other people. Let this be a lesson to anyone who dares to harm or cause to come to harm an innocent child. God himself is that child's advocate. He can move heaven and earth to find you and you can't escape His righteous judgment. Justice is not delivered by men, it comes from God. Justice is still being served here, there are others involved......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-22811011987875920392012-08-03T12:30:22.914-04:002012-08-03T12:30:22.914-04:00Anonymous, are you, in fact, Louis Freeh?Anonymous, are you, in fact, Louis Freeh?Shreddernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-59475402780278588452012-07-27T19:45:13.435-04:002012-07-27T19:45:13.435-04:00In any criminal proceeding, the standard for convi...In any criminal proceeding, the standard for conviction is "beyond a reasonable doubt." So, why the need to "produce new evidnence or stop whining" when the current evidence on the table never comes close to closing the "reasonable doubt" door?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-366329275737969942012-07-25T22:32:16.146-04:002012-07-25T22:32:16.146-04:00If you actually believe this, it is no surprise yo...If you actually believe this, it is no surprise you cannot wrap your brain around the difference between facts and opinions. Meant for the tattoo loon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-74623233571952243112012-07-25T22:28:22.287-04:002012-07-25T22:28:22.287-04:00If you actually believe this, it is no surprise yo...If you actually believe this, it is no surprise you cannot wrap your brain around the difference between facts and opinions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-14707440842048681352012-07-25T15:58:08.731-04:002012-07-25T15:58:08.731-04:00Good shot DJM - masterfulGood shot DJM - masterfulBarry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-47316565145438799662012-07-25T15:57:14.527-04:002012-07-25T15:57:14.527-04:00YES 1000 time YES = good point and good job thanks...YES 1000 time YES = good point and good job thanksBarry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-89206712434704779902012-07-25T15:56:23.728-04:002012-07-25T15:56:23.728-04:001000's of good-hearted people attended TSM fun...1000's of good-hearted people attended TSM fundraisers. The charity raise millions of dollars and did some very good things for 100's of underprivileged kids. <br />The horrendous rotten acts of the few cannot be applied to the many. Anyone who thinks that is very messed up.Barry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-19983264656014233062012-07-25T15:53:23.261-04:002012-07-25T15:53:23.261-04:00DJM599 please email me aurabass AT yahoo dot comDJM599 please email me aurabass AT yahoo dot comBarry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-17446738663105982472012-07-25T15:02:46.724-04:002012-07-25T15:02:46.724-04:00Thank you so much for your kind remarks DJM599. Mu...Thank you so much for your kind remarks DJM599. Much appreciated. I am aware of one of the Kevin Slaten show taking apart the ill-informed publicity hungry Susan Lampe who took Coach Pinkel to task for his remarks. He did a masterful job of making Ms Lampe show herself as the fool she is. <br /><br />I will listen to the other's this evening and thanks for the links. I will post them on the blog main page with a hat tip to you for the links. If you have a way to reach Mr. Slaten we would love for him to know of our work.<br /><br />See the front page today for the Thursday appearance of Ray Blehar on the GOON SHOW tomorrow night at 6:20. a link is there and one of us would be glad to do a show with mr Slaten do discuss our detailed dissection of that steaming pile of manure known as the Freeh Report.Barry Bozemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03484041114078117845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-60885283104055693322012-07-25T14:18:45.128-04:002012-07-25T14:18:45.128-04:00Gentlemen,
Thank you for a very painstaking, comp...Gentlemen, <br />Thank you for a very painstaking, compelling and disturbing analysis of the Freeh report. How on earth did the BOT decide this was the apex of truth and understanding on the matter? And they paid over $6 Million for it? Incredible, simply incredible.<br /><br />Has anyone picked up on the Kevin Slaten radio broadcasts that are slamming the Freeh report? The one last evening with Anthony Lugano is epic. I whole- heartedly recommend you listen to them if you haven't already, and if you have, I humbly ask that you contact his show to be interviewed for it. I would imagine he would love to have Mrrs. Blehar and/or Aurabass on the show, and also to have the material you have prepared. Here are a few links (please ignore the text to the right of each link)<br /><br />http://chirb.it/zFhG5f Kevin Slaten/Anthony Lugano<br />http://chirb.it/LJ2cyt Kevin Slaten/Susan Lampe<br />http://chirb.it/q5BsB1 Kevin Slaten/NCAA<br />http://chirb.it/CaFkt8 Kevin Slated/KC Star Opinion<br /><br />Please keep up the good fight to get at the truth, and trust that alums will support you.DJM599https://www.blogger.com/profile/03876344024264746038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-57137183097766697782012-07-24T19:49:59.677-04:002012-07-24T19:49:59.677-04:00Full retard? Nice choice of words. The only mental...Full retard? Nice choice of words. The only mentally disabled one I see here sir is you. It's unfortunate you don't share our view of the railroading of Joe Paterno and a great university, but hey, its a free country. But I'll be damned if I'm going to cave into something henious until such time as the evidence says I must, simply because you and others think its expedient to do so. And assuming you couldn't be bothered to check it out, the "evidence" Freeh has put forth for his so-called conspiracy isn't evidence at all.DJM599https://www.blogger.com/profile/03876344024264746038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-43650786094821352702012-07-24T19:42:07.350-04:002012-07-24T19:42:07.350-04:00I haven't heard this aspect before. It is a ve...I haven't heard this aspect before. It is a very subtle but explosive point to make in the context of the entire Freeh report. Are we sure about this? If so, it undercuts Freehs major allegation. Surely this will come out during the upcoming Curley/Shutltz trial.DJM599https://www.blogger.com/profile/03876344024264746038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-30697941317665859492012-07-24T19:30:41.043-04:002012-07-24T19:30:41.043-04:00Agreed!Agreed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-78658717862153553712012-07-24T18:14:24.422-04:002012-07-24T18:14:24.422-04:00And everyone in the media reported that the Exxon ...And everyone in the media reported that the Exxon Valdez crashed because the ship's captain was drunk. That was false. <br /><br />Everyone in the media reported the Duke Lacrosse team raped a stripper. That was false.<br /><br />Louis Freeh leaked Richard Jewell's name as the Olympic Park bomber and the media ruined his life. He was an innocent man.<br /><br />Louis Freeh ignored evidence that contradicted the story he wanted to tell about Joe Paterno and, as a result, damaged the reputation of a man and an institution. The media is backing Freeh -- until the other shoe drops.<br /><br />Louis Freeh's name will be mentioned in the same breath with Mike Nifong's.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-11146693870587135022012-07-24T18:05:41.763-04:002012-07-24T18:05:41.763-04:00But if, as you've suggested elsewhere, TSM fun...But if, as you've suggested elsewhere, TSM fundraisers were meat markets for pedophiles and Paterno, Schultz, Curley and Spanier were frequent attendees at TSM fundraisers, is it not equally possible that Freeh drastically UNDERSTATED their culpability? You need to address this aspect of the scandal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-17790554696675398112012-07-24T17:54:18.331-04:002012-07-24T17:54:18.331-04:00Yeah, America still loves Joe. Face the fact that ...Yeah, America still loves Joe. Face the fact that the media is perfectly reflecting the overwhelming hatred of the America for EVERYONE involved in this thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-22778693837534784372012-07-24T17:07:26.456-04:002012-07-24T17:07:26.456-04:00Well Anonymous,
I was just on vacation at Deep Cre...Well Anonymous,<br />I was just on vacation at Deep Creek Lake, Maryland and they were there with their kids, who were wearing PSU shirts and hats. Guess what? Not a soul said a word to them.<br /><br />There were adults, self-included, wearing PSU shirts and hats. Nobody said anything negative to me. I went over and talked to the guy with his kids. <br /><br />I sat at a table with a group of people from Maryland who I met that day, who went to Frostburg State and never attended as much as one PSU game. That group told me that they still love Joe Paterno.<br /><br />The most recent polls of trust in the media is at 44% - an all-time low. Based on that information, it appears you are in the minority if you trust what has been reported about Penn State.Ray Bleharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557326921056183979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2260510730184507282.post-4320865883189795222012-07-24T16:49:37.073-04:002012-07-24T16:49:37.073-04:00Hey Ray,
Am I "spineless" if I don'...Hey Ray,<br /><br />Am I "spineless" if I don't send my 8-year-old to the playground wearing his little sweatshirt with Joe's picture on it? I don't know if I could be as brave as you, Ray, when he comes comes home with his ass kicked.<br /><br />You've got a lot of gall telling people with kids who live in the REAL world, not Joe World, that they're cowards if they don't jeopardise their future and their family's future by shooting off their mouths about Joe Paterno. If you talked to someone other than your fellow conspiracy buffs, you'd know that Joe's reputation is in the crapper and that no one wants to hear anybody defend him. In fact, they just want to get the hell out of the room.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com