I tried to watch Bob Costas interview with Joe Posnanski again early on Saturday and once again I could not stomach it. I made it about 10 minutes in or maybe less when Costas said paraphrasing -
"it is unrealistic to believe in a community as small as Penn State and State College to believe that Joe Paterno did not know about the 1998 investigation of Jerry Sandusky - and knowing that he failed to take the statement of Mike McQueary seriously enough in 2001 - a terrible unfathomable mistake"Gee Bob - I'm a bit confused. The PA Department of Public Welfare followed up a Centre County Youth Services inquiry into a complaint logged by the Mother of Victim 6 - as we have come to know him - with the PSU Police Department. The mother was concerned because her son came home with wet hair after working out with Jerry Sandusky and taking a shower.
These are very confidential inquiries Bob by their very nature. No one is supposed to know about them. We know from some email provided by Freeh in exhibits 2A through E that Chief Harmon relayed some information about the inquiry to Gary Schultz. And we know that Schultz told Tim Curley very little. As a matter of fact this is all that Gary passed on to Tim.
1) Public Welfare would interview someone on Thursday the 7th of May
2) on May 14 Gary misled Tim telling him a DPW was on hand the previous week and that a psychologist would be talking to the boys over the next week - but we know that Seasock talked to them on the 8th.
3) On the 19th\ Gary told Tim they would not hear anything prior to the end of the week
4) Then on June 8th Gary returned from vacation and Tom had told him that DPW and the Univ Police were supposed to have interviewed Sandusky and he would see if that had happened and get back to him
5) On June 9th Gary told Tim "they met with Jerry on Monday and concluded there was no CRIMINAL behavior and the matter was closed. That Jerry was concerned about how it might have adversely affected the child. That the matter had been appropriately investigated and he hoped it was now behind them.
Bob - here is all we can extrapolate from those emails.
A boys mother was concerned about a workout and shower involving her son and Jerry Sandusky. Tom Harmon read Gary Schultz the police report and Gary took notes. Gary only told Tim that DPW people would be interviewing the boy and Sandusky and a psychologist would be interviewing "the boys". And finally Gary told Tim the inquiry ended with no Criminal or Sexually inappropriate charges.
Since that is all that Tim knew it is all he could have told Joe IF he told him anything. So what Freeh terms a criminal investigation of child abuse was to Tim and Gary an inquiry by DPW and PSU police of a mother's concern about a workout and shower that ended in no Criminal or Sexually inappropriate behavior being found. Thus it was not deemed "criminal" and never entered as a criminal investigation. For them it was simply a misunderstanding on the part of the mother.
Nothing in this information shows Joe was told anything and IF it was mentioned to him it is quite likely the mention went like this: Tim to Joe
"Joe - a mother has contacted DPW and PSU police after her son came home from a workout and shower with Jerry. She was concerned something inappropriate might have happened. The DPW had a psychologist speak with the boy and they interviewed Jerry and concluded there was no criminal or sexually inappropriate behavior".There is no reason to expect that Joe knew anything and IF he did that is what he would have known. So ask yourself this simple question: If Joe knew about this why would he not just tell the Grand Jury this:
"Sure I knew that a mother was concerned about a workout and shower between her son and Jerry and the DPW looked into it with the police thoroughly and they concluded there was nothing criminal or sexually inappropriate."Answer that for us please Bob. Why would that information make it more likely that Joe would be more alarmed about whatever Mike said to him in that 10 minute description of his 45 second locker room visit on Feb 9 2001. *which incidentally he described as the Friday before Spring Break in March of 2002..
FOUR WORDS IN TEN MINUTESBob we know that Mike spoke to Joe for 10 minutes so lets try to figure this out can we? Since Mike was telling the story would it not be fair to presume he did most of the talking? Say 6 out of the 10 minutes? Is that reasonable?
Now we know that Joe said these words to the Grand Jury "a sexual nature" and "fondling". We also know Joe said these words:
I'm not sure ...as I said, I'm not sure... I'm not sure what the term...I'm not sure exactly... I don't know...I'm not sure exactly...I didn't push Mike to describe exactly...I don't know whether... I can't be precise...I don't know whether... I'm not sure when...I believe I did it...I don't know...I don't remember...
14 statements relating to memory issues from an 84 year old man at them time of his testimony in recalling specific facts relating back more than 10 years for some of the disingenuous to quit applying specific detail to his 6 minutes of testimony despite Joe not being able to provide specific detail himself. They continue to claim the specific detail that Joe said it was a sexual nature but consistently fail to use Joes full statement of I'm not sure exactly what it was.
Now please be realistic Bob. Try to dismiss all you've heard of Jerry Sandusky except the following: Acclaimed Defensive Coordinator of Linebacker U for decades. Honored Charity Founder helping 100's of disadvantaged kids. Foster father of 7. Honored by Pres Bush, Sen Santorum and the elite of Pennsylvania. Author of books and adept fund raiser. - and now assume you are Joe Paterno who knew him for 30 years, or AD Curley who knew him for at least 15.
And be honest Bob - you hear that this Jerry who has been bringing the Second Mile boys to PSU games, camps, workouts and yes showers since 1977 without a single complaint has been the object of a complaint by a mother concerned about a workout and a shower. Jerry's fellow coaches knew that Jerry had been serving as a surrogate father for these poor underprivileged boys for a long time giving his time to bring them to the PSU football games and locker, workout and shower rooms. Many had shared these workouts and showers with Jerry and the boys - its' a male bonding thing that sports guys have done forever. Nothing weird or strange about it - and certainly nothing sexual.
What would your first reaction be if you heard a mother was concerned? I suggest it would be that the mother made a mistake.
Now let's fast forward to a Saturday morning in Feb of 2001 and Mike comes to your door soon after Kenny Jackson announced he was leaving the coaching staff. Mike goes into a 5 or 6 minute description of his 45 second locker room visit. Every word of this version of a part of Mike's description to Joe is in his testimony under oath to the court in the Perjury preliminary hearing.
"Joe I entered the locker room and heard 2 or 3 slapping sounds.. I immediately thought - given it was 8:30pm that there was a coach or player in the showers with a woman. I started to leave but decided to put my new shoes in the locker and from there I could just see into the shower room through a mirror. More than one of the showers was running and I was -well visualizations run through your head - I was about to get out of there embarrassed but I glanced for one or two seconds and it was an older man's backside under the shower.
I didn't know what I was seeing I couldn't believe it was him so I moved to where I could see him without using mirror.and glanced again for one or two seconds. Jerry Sandusky was standing upright behind a boy who's head came up to Jerry's pectorals. The boy was standing upright with his hands on the wall and Jerry was right behind him with his arms were around him.
I slammed the locker room door and then moved so we could see each other face to face. I don't know what was happening. It was just those two glances and I though from the slapping sound that something - uh I don't know - of a sexual nature was going on in that shower before I even glanced and then I saw the boy and thought that Jerry could be fondling the boy or something but when I saw his face he didn't show any distress or pain or anything. He didn't seem to want my help so I just got out of there in a hurry because it felt really uncomfortable.
So I called my Dad and he told me to come home and speak with him. Dr. Dranov was there when I got home so I told them what I'm telling you and they thought I should come talk to you. I know Jerry isn't a coach anymore so I wondered what he was doing there with a boy that late in the evening. Maybe he was a foster child or grandchild staying at the Sandusky house?
I didn't know what to do so I'm telling you. It just didn't seem right to me and I thought you should know. Maybe they were just horsing around - you know how Jerry is always wrestling with people and is so physical. I couldn't really say anything bad was happening but it was just weird to me. What do you think I should do? I can't say anything for certain about the incident. I was only in the locker room for 45 seconds."
"I really hate to bring this up to you but Dad and Dr. Dranov said I should. It shook me up at first because I expected to see two adults doing something of a sexual nature. But the more I consider it the possibility that the boy was one of Jerry's foster grand kids and I didn't see enough to request a police investigation based on my glances."
So think about it. Mike couldn't convince his father or doctor that it was a police matter. But somehow we "know" Joe made a mistake? Come on Bob - give us a better account of what happened based on Mike's testimony and those emails.
I'm sure I could come up with a story that is far more damning but it wouldn't be any more accurate or inaccurate than this imagined account base on the evidence and testimony. But I'm not the guy claiming that Joe knew more than he said he did and that he made a massive mistake that deserves the defamation his name has endured or the penalties the NCAA levied on Penn State.
Based on these 4 words in 10 minutes and 3 vague emails from Tim Curley to Gary Schultz, Joe Paterno has been dragged through the media mud and condemned as a moral failure. Penn State university has suffered incredible penalty and vilification all because of these 4 words and those emails made to be something unforgivable by Louis Freeh for 6.5 million dollars.. 4 word in 10 minutes. - unbelievable.
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