The First Home Football Game on Sept 1 at PSU will mark a big push by this website, The Freehdom Fighters, Framing Paterno.com, PS4RS, Walter Uhler, and those who support our efforts to right the wrongs done to PSU and Joe Paterno with the acceptance of many members of the Board of Trustees. We will be supporting Eileen Morgan's full page ad in the Centre Daily Times and John Zieglers Documentary Filming..
First: The Second Mile Sandusky Scandal Website in concert with Framing Paterno.com and Walter Uhler will have a tailgate from 9am on Saturday until there is no one left following the game.
THE SECOND MILE SANDUSKY SCANDAL website will feature LIVE BLOGGING of pictures and information about the SMSS Framing Paterno TailGate all day Saturday at this location.
Anyone taking pictures of the event should send them with your comments to aurabass4psu@gmail.com
The Location of the Tailgate will be:
SOUTH RED LOT close to the Bryce Jordan Center. Space 2472 - Facing Dauer Drive - Under the Banner you see atop this website.
Please drop by the tailgate before or after the game to do the following:
1) Meet Ray Blehar - co-author of the SMSS Website, John Ziegler of John Ziegler.com, and Walt Uhler of WalterCUhler.com - all contributing members of the Framing Paterno.com bloggers along with this author.
ATTENTION TO THOSE ATTENDING THE TAILGATE: Civility is the rule of the day. Civil discourse only. Do not respond or get in heated arguments with those who do not share our point of view. If someone who disagrees with our view threatens you, find a policeman. Do not take matters into your own hands. We will obey any and all requests from the police and/or the Penn State staff working the parking lots, as well as the fans who are tailgating near us.
2) John Ziegler and his film crew will be filming for the Documentary announce yesterday in the Centr Daily Times. John, Ray, Walt and other Freehdom Fighters will be looking to meet anyone with information about the situation that might be of interest to this website and the documentary.
3) Kevin Slaten will be on hand to glean information for his radio program.
4) Eileen Morgan will make an appearance to promote her Full Page Advertisment in the Centre Daily Times and meet other interested alumni along with other members of the Freehdom Fighter's and contributors to the Second Mile Sandusky Scandal website.
5) On Sunday John Ziegler and Ray Blehar will be interviewing people for the Documentary. In addition to the interviews already scheduled we urge anyone who can help with our mission to establish the truth about The Second Mile, The Freeh Fiction, The malicious destruction of PSU and Joe Paterno, and about the truth concerning the McQueary event or the DPW/CYS investigation in 1998 to come forward and have their story told. Those who would prefer to remain anonymous can rest assured their identity will not be revealed if that is their wish. If you know anyone with relevant information about the internal workings at The Second Mile and any investigation of Dr. Raykovitz and his wife we urge you to ask them to meet with John and Ray.
Those people with information about the chat room posts of the McQueary's or any statement that supports the revelation he only spoke of horseplay with no sexual overtones is going to be critical to right the wrong done to Joe Paterno by Louis Freeh, the media, and the Board of Trustees. We intend to continue to pursue the TRUTH unlike the obvious Freeh Fiction.
7) This will be the first of several SMSS Tailgates and events to be held on football game days this Fall. Any Contribution you care to make to this effort will go toward the purchase of more of the T Shirts, Bumper Stickers, Advertisements and investigations along with the operation and maintenance of this website. Please use the DONATE button on the top right of the site.
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You can delete comments from this website but you can't delete testimony under oath :
ReplyDelete"McQueary said he went to Paterno and testified that he made it very clear to the coach what he saw.
“I told him and I want to make sure I'm clear. I made sure he knew it was sexual and wrong. There was no doubt,” McQueary testified, according to reports from the courthouse."
Joe's grand jury testimony supported MM's Sandusky trial testimony :
"It was a sexual nature."
MM said "sexual" and Joe heard "sexual".
Join the BOT and the rest of the PSU community and move on.
DeleteIf you don't understand what this means I can't help you get the incredible impropriety this represents. Mike McQueary was not interviewed by Freeh although Mike requested it because the Attorney General did not want Mike to talk with Freeh. Why?
Because Mike would explain his uncertainty and the ambiguity of what he said to Joe
McQueary spoke to Joe for 10 minutes. Four of those words might have been "a sexual nature" and "fondling" 4 words out of how many he spoke that day a decade in the past and in what context?
There is now some evidence to the contrary. From Joe himself in his conversation with Gary Gray on Dec 6th. Our memories are interesting things - particularly the memory of an 85 year old a decade following a brief conversation.
Was it "Joe I don't know exactly what was happening. I expected to see two adults having sex when I heard those sounds. I visualized seeing that prior to glancing for 1 or 2 seconds. I wasn't sure what I was seeing. Something of a sexual nature? Fondling or something like that? I just can't be certain my observation was so brief and I was so shocked when it wasn't two adults like I expected."
Your guess is as good as mine. Did Joe ask Mike what they talked about after he received his subpoena in Dec of 2010? I would have if I didn't recall what was said a decade prior to the serving.
Unknown is a prosecutors tool or fool.
DeleteHe obviously has some strange belief that Kelly and Corbett along with Freeh had truth as their goal. I know it's difficult to suffer fools like unknown.
14 statements in the brief testimony by Joe to the Grand Jury that were part of this "a sexual nature" and "fondling" out of any context. Likely prompted in a pre testimony conversation with Mike.
"I'm not sure ...as I said, I'm not sure... I'm not sure what the term...I'm not sure exactly... I don't know...I'm not sure exactly...I didn't push Mike to describe exactly...I don't know whether... I can't be precise...I don't know whether... I'm not sure when...I believe I did it...I don't know...I don't remember..."
14 statements relating to memory issues from an 84 year old man at them time of his testimony in recalling specific facts relating back more than 10 years for some of the disingenuous to quit applying specific detail to his 6 minutes of testimony despite Joe not being able to provide specific detail himself. They continue to claim the specific detail that Joe said it was a sexual nature but consistently fail to use Joes full statement of I'm not sure exactly what it was which was part of the complete testimony right after he said that. And they also fail to point out that Joes testimony was Prosecution biased with no cross examination. What a freaking joke.
But unknown with a mind like a steel trap would have you believe that Joe's memory was a clear as a bell at 85 after a decade had passed over something that did not even merit a thought for that entire decade. Unknown's idea of how the memory works and the relative importance of the brief Sat AM 10 minutes is as absurd as his anonymous babbling.
10 minutes Mike took to describe a 45 second locker room visit and the best he could do with Joe was 4 words???
BULLSHIT.
Whether Joe understood MM to have witnessed a "sexual" incident between Jerry and a little boy is absolutely critical to any attempt to redeem Joe's reputation in the public's mind. Anyone at PSU who the public believes was aware of a reported sexual incident involving a little boy that was never reported to the cops, the real cops, is damned in the eyes of the public. It doesn't matter whether they told their superior at PSU or the head of TSM. All the public cares about is that people at PSU, including Joe, knew about the sexual assault of a lttle boy and somehow it never reached the ears of the cops. Clearly, it's an uphill battle to convince a public which has no inclination to give Joe any benefit of the doubt that Joe didn't know of a reported sexual assault on a child in light of his sworn testimony about the 2001 incident.
DeleteNobody other that Joe's defenders are going to construe Joe's use of the word "sexual" as meaning "not sexual" or "horseplay" or as just meaningless drivel. Why should they? Joe's defenders may be willing to imagine conversations between MM and Joe and to attribute a sudden, isolated bout of temporary senility to the PSU head coach. Joe's defenders may be willing to consider the possibility that "sexual" doesn't mean "sexual". But why should a hostile public do so? Arguments based on "reasonable" imagined conversations and scenarios mean absolutely nothing to the public. Nobody other than Joe die-hards are going to accept the existence of conversations of which there is no evidence whatsoever. Why don't we all imagine conversations between Jerry and his victims in which they admit to him that they made it all up for the money? Actually, that's what Joe's defenders accused Victim 2 of doing when he sued Penn State and blamed Joe for the cover-up.
Why would anyone other than Joe's defenders assume that the head coach of a major football program had a sudden, isolated episode of senility before the grand jury? Why is it that when Joe's defenders talk about Joe the Head Coach, he's the "winningest coach in college football history", the molder of young minds , but when they talk about Joe the Grand Jury Witness, he's a confused, easily misled 85-year-old man?
The bottom line is that all three times MM testified under oath, he said he told Joe that what he saw was sexual and the one time Joe testified under oath, he confirmed MM's testimony. If Joe's defenders want to BEGIN to convince people that Joe wasn't a moral coward, they're going to have to prove that Joe never said these words to the Grand Jury : "It was a sexual nature". Come up with an affidavit of the court reporter or a recording of Joe's testimony, something to prove that Joe never said these words.
There's still the problem of Joe's knowledge of the 1998 incident but one problem at a time.
ONE OF THESE DAYS EVEN 'UNKNOWN' WILL FIGURE THIS OUT
Delete10 MIN CONVERSATION AND HE ONLY KNOWS 4 WORDS.
Since Mike was telling the story would it not be fair to presume he did most of the talking? Say 6 out of the 10 minutes? Is that reasonable?
Now we know that Joe said these words to the Grand Jury "a sexual nature" and "fondling". We also know Joe said these words:
I'm not sure ...as I said, I'm not sure... I'm not sure what the term...I'm not sure exactly... I don't know...I'm not sure exactly...I didn't push Mike to describe exactly...I don't know whether... I can't be precise...I don't know whether... I'm not sure when...I believe I did it...I don't know...I don't remember...
14 statements relating to memory issues from an 84 year old man at them time of his testimony in recalling specific facts relating back more than 10 years for some of the disingenuous to quit applying specific detail to his 6 minutes of testimony despite Joe not being able to provide specific detail himself.
Jerry Sandusky Acclaimed Defensive Coordinator of Linebacker U for decades. Honored Charity Founder helping 100's of disadvantaged kids. Foster father of 7. Honored by Pres Bush, Sen Santorum and the elite of Pennsylvania. Author of books and adept fund raiser. - and now assume you are Joe Paterno who knew him for 30 years
you hear that this Jerry who has been bringing the Second Mile boys to PSU games, camps, workouts and yes showers since 1977 without a single complaint has been the object of a complaint by a mother concerned about a workout and a shower. Jerry's fellow coaches knew that Jerry had been serving as a surrogate father for these poor underprivileged boys for a long time giving his time to bring them to the PSU football games and locker, workout and shower rooms. Many had shared these workouts and showers with Jerry and the boys - its' a male bonding thing that sports guys have done forever. Nothing weird or strange about it - and certainly nothing sexual.
CONTINUED FROM ABOVE
DeleteNow let's fast forward to a Saturday morning in Feb of 2001 Mike goes into a 5 or 6 minute description of his 45 second locker room visit. Every word of this version of a part of Mike's description to Joe is in his testimony under oath to the court in the Perjury preliminary hearing.
"Joe I entered the locker room and heard 2 or 3 slapping sounds.. I immediately thought - given it was 8:30pm that there was a coach or player in the showers with a woman. I started to leave but decided to put my new shoes in the locker and from there I could just see into the shower room through a mirror. More than one of the showers was running and I was -well visualizations run through your head - I was about to get out of there embarrassed but I glanced for one or two seconds and it was Jerry Sandusky's backside I was seeing. I knew it was him from the grey hair and his build. I didn't know what I was seeing I couldn't believe it was him so I moved to where I could see him without using mirror.and glanced again for one or two seconds. Jerry was standing upright behind a boy who's head came up to Jerry's pectorals. He too was standing upright with his hands on the wall and Jerry was right behind him. And his arms were around him. I slammed the locker room door and then moved so we could see each other face to face. I don't know what was happening. It was just those two glances and I though from the slapping sound that something - uh I don't know - of a sexual nature was going on in that shower before I even glanced and then I saw the boy and thought there he was fondling the boy or something but when I saw his face he didn't show any distress or pain or anything. He didn't seem to want my help so I just got out of there in a hurry because it felt really uncomfortable. So I called my Dad and he told me to come home and speak with him. Dr. Dranov was there when I got home so I told them what I'm telling you and they thought I should come talk to you. I know Jerry isn't a coach anymore so I wondered what he was doing there with a boy that late in the evening. Maybe he was a foster child or grandchild staying at the Sandusky house? I didn't know what to do so I'm telling you. It just didn't seem right to me and I thought you should know. Maybe they were just horsing around - you know how Jerry is always wrestling with people and is so physical. I couldn't really say anything bad was happening but it was just weird to me. What do you think I should do?"
All of this - the one or two second glances, the three slapping sounds, the I didn't know what I was seeing or what to think, the visualizations, the positions, standing upright, no distress or pain, height difference - it's all in Mikes testimony under oath.
So think about it. Mike couldn't convince his father or doctor that it was a police matter. But somehow we "know" Joe made a mistake? Come on- give us a better account of what happened based on Mike's testimony and those emails.
Unknown,
DeleteA jury found that no rape occurred in the shower, as the AG falsely claimed in the Grand Jury Presentment.
Most of the public believes that Victim 2 testified at the trial, when he did not.
The AG cannot charge more than one person from Penn State with failure to report. Look at the law. It requires just one report from the organizatiation in the care of the child.
Tim Curley CANNOT be charged with failure to report. He is not in a position which involves minor children coming before him. Sports camps at Penn State were not run by the athletic department prior to 2010.
Gary Schultz, as the SR VP of Finance, was also oversaw PSU OHR, however, he does not come in contact with children as a matter of his position, therefore CANNOT be charged with failure to report.
Joe Paterno, as the Head Coach, also CANNOT be charged with failure to report for the same reason as Curley.
Of all the people involved in this case ONE and ONLY ONE can be charged with failure report and that is ONLY under the condition that he worked as a coach at a Sports Camp - that person in Mike McQueary.
Define sexual because McQueary appears to have about 15 different definitions of it! Vague & non-specific do not cut it! Apparently his father & Dr. Dranov didn't think it was "sexual" because, if it was, they should be charged in not reporting it as they are mandated reporters.
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